Primal Force Log.......
 

Haven't posted on this forum until now, so this is my first. I'm starting with my log, and review of this supp.

Here goes:

Training:

Back, Bi's, abs.........

One Arm Dumbell Rows 4x6-8(first 2 warmups, 90lbs.)
Pullups 2xFailure(bodyweight)
Pulldowns 2x6-8(200lbs.)
Seated Machine Rows 2x6-8(160lbs. each side)
Incline Dumbell Curls 2x6-8(40 lbs.)
Barbell Curls 2x6-8(85lbs.)
Machine Preacher Curls 2x4-6(70 lbs.)
Twisting Crunches 3x15 supersetted w/
Reg. Crunches 3x15

Done!

Notes: Good strength, and weight increases have been coming recently due to supps. added. Most recently added is something called primal force that is supposedly a mass gaining supp. in nature that I recently purchased. Really like this product. Good pumps. So far since beginning this, Iv'e went from 160ish to 173 in bodyweight, mostly lean, and I am getting consistantly stronger. Those poundages aren't my maxes. Review so far, VERY GOOD!

Feed back?

is that all you work out is back, bi's and abs?

crunches are really not good for your back. and they really don't do much for your abs. browse through a few journals on here, and you'll find some much better alternatives like planks and anti rotation stuff. which is what your abs are meant for :)

Obviously no that is not all that I work. It was just my last workout.
Max weight has also gone up in all my major lifts since on this gainer. Good stuff.

I must say that I do agree about the ab stuff however.

Let me be the asshole here...

Gay workout.

(no homophobe)

Shouldn't this be in the journal section ?

I'm wondering the same. He doesn't say anything about the product that he's logging. I googled "primal force" (I shouldn't have to if he's running a log; he should have posted product information with it) and I didn't come up with anything.

To the OP: Pumps don't mean anything. Judging a workout based on the pump you get is about as worthwhile as judging your workout by how good your hair looks in the gym mirror that day. Strength and weight gain are good indicators however. You should post your diet also, if you're serious.

We probably scared him away. Aw shucks.

Product reviews are useless if the person testing is getting newbie gains anyway.

Its skews the results. :D

On the contrary. I will try to post when I can, but don't get too much time in front of the cpu.

Only info on the product is here http://www.steelforce-anabolics.com/...?productID=155

Iv'e been a member here for a little longer. Fist product iv'e used, no complaints thus far.

Noob, not quite, but deff. hardgainer.

Sorry bout posting workout in here. Will be starting log in proper section. Hoping to get feedback, and input when I do.

I'm sure someone can move this if they see fit.

Did you pay $340 for this ? I didn't get to much out of that description but it sounds like some weight gainer ( powder ) or super weight gainer :D . I'm sure you could have got similar shit for a lot less , but then again I don't know what was in it . No macro values ?

What's in it ?

I sent them an email asking a simple question -what is in this stuff ? If i'm going to pay $340 USD over $400 CAN I want to know.

This is the response I got from the people that sell this product.

^^Seems a bit wierd to buy something for that much money and have no clue what you've actually bought.

I guess that's why supplements are such a lucrative industry :biglaugh:

^^^ Yep. Want to start a supplement company Kane? I hear rice flour is cheap & I just bought a capping kit. I could add a little caffeine, then use the rice flour for filler. Apparently we can charge $340 for a month's supply. :)

i'm in.

They did it in "Bigger Faster Stronger". The guy made a 'proprietary blend' capsule which consisted of mainly rice flour and a bit of creatine. All done by the book and legal. Cost about $1 dollar per bottle and could probably be sold for at least $40. All you need to do is include the words: hardcore, extreme, stack, hardgainer, and pump. It will sell like crazy.

I'm in.

LOL. Yeah I saw that too. But iv'e been a member of the board that sells those supps. for years, and many of the other members were too. Supp. companies never really tell you what, or everything that's in there products. You would be a fool to think that they do. But on the flipside, the product I'm using deff. seems to be doing what it claims to very well. The only way to find out is to try it I always say.

Ok then. What kind of workout/split would you recomend?, since you seem to be the authority on this.

I know they won't say .5 grams of this and 6 grams of that and blah blah. But I'd at least like to know the majority of the ingredients.

Personally I'd rather spend the 300 bucks on some literature or some gear (not anabolics but things like bands, chains, some wraps, maybe a suit). But I'm still looking forward to seeing the review :D

I'll keep you posted.