If it helps me sleep better, I'm all for it. I sleep very shitily (is that a word?). Anyway, I don't think I've slept more than 4 hrs in a row since I was a teen (I'm 35 now).

Damn, have you tried any melatonin?

damm thats definatly got to be affecting your training have you tried like some medications for that or something? Zma makes me sleep like a baby and so does a protien shake before bed

Nyquil knocks me out. Im curious about that to how do you calculate your test levels?

Blood test.

You know how you guys said when youget off creatine you'll lose some size because some of the water will come out of your muscles well when you finish with this stuff will the muscle gain and bigger size stay with you?

i was gunna answer this then i reliezed i had no idea.lol (its kind of early in the morning) definatly is a good question though. i would say it depends on how effective the product is, if it dramtically increases test levels then when you go off of it the test levels drop then im sure youll notice a differance, but if your test levels are only increase by a small percentage then maybe you wont relieze any differances. i definatly have to get my test levels calculated one day it would be a cool thing to know

Oh Sleazy do you know when they will ship it?

I didn't get everyones addresses until today (Sunday) and I have already forwarded them to Scivation, I think they will be going out Monday/Tuesday so you should get them pretty soon.

Products were sent out today, Monday.