Supplement Horror Stories for Emergency Edu. Project
I am preparing a presentation on dietary supplements which have potential to be abused or otherwise have harmful effects WHEN IMPROPERLY USED.
I have had no response from those manufacturers whom I have tried to contact to date. This presentation will be provided to EMS providers (e.g. Paramedics, First Responders) as a way to raise awareness. These products affect human metabolism and if too much is consumed, bad things can happen. I'm looking for anecdotal information from the field, so to speak, as companies which sponsor specific products might quietly kill threads which make their products look bad. I'm not saying that they would, but the possibility exists. Anticipated situations are those like a child who makes 'milkshake' out of your super-concentrated powder, or a newbie who takes supplements which should not be used by someone with a medical condition like diabetes. Specifically, I'm looking for horror stories about things like what happens when you mix two cups of creatine monohydrate into a gallon of Orange Tang and suck it down like a dying man entering the oasis. (Very dangerous. Not recommended.) Please post your stories here. I will PM if I need to email you to confirm your information or with questions. Thank you for your participation. Please PM if there is something unclear about my posting. |
if you do a search there are some stories about no xplode...and people having to shit uncontrollably :)
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no-xplode seems like false advertising in this case.
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Everything has a side effect, and not all side effects are bad either. Take too much protein powder and you'll be sitting down with your favourite magazine for a matter of seconds, but take the right amount or an amount less than that and it helps build muscle. |
The purpose of this posting was to get ONE thread which had only horror stories of what happens when you take too much, or mix supplements in a dangerous manner (even accidentally).
Specifically, I'm looking for what happens when supplements are misused. Medics are trained in two general areas: treating heallthy people who are hurt due to trauma; treating sick people who are, well, sick. The concept of treating 'healthy people' slows a lot of medics down for a few crucial seconds. This presentation is intended to bridge this gap. I get asked about performance supplements by high school kids at the all-night diner where I study. The local medics don't even know what creatine monohydrate is... Wading through posts to find some guy who is relating a story (which sounds like his last big adventure was Band Camp) about one supplement which 'gave me the s**ts' will not be acceptable to my supervisor. That's why I'm asking you for help. I appreciate the direction to NO Xplode. Any othe products have a bad reputation? I can at least chase down their ingredients. What about ''energy drinks"? Herbal mixes to boost fat metabolism or otherwise tweak your hormones? Thanks for your support. |
you should probably be interviewing EMT's who have encountered incidences with supplements. since we obviously don't have any horror stories.
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What exactly is el dinero attempting to accomplish by attending this site? The questions that are being asked always seem to be out of the ordinary.
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supplement horror stories
Please read the initial posting or PM me if you have questions. I stated this in the original posting.
If you have looked at your local Public Safety employees lately, you will notice many of them are overweight and have unhealthy lifestyles. Ever heard about cops and donut shops? You folks take supplements. I want to hear your horror stories. Thank you for contributing. |
we don't have any.
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No horror stories here.....unless you count running out of my protein, waxy maise, etc.
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I don't quite understand... you're doing a presentation for people in the emergency services fields. You reference how overweight they are, how unathletic, yet you want to tell them about what bad things can happen if they were to take certain supplements or mix certain supplements? I can see advising them of adverse reactions, but as a whole, the supplement industry doesn't really have THAT many horror stories. Ephedra is about the only real controversial thing that's gone on over the last few years (in terms of legal supps, that is). And even the Ephedra scare was based on the fact that some idiots took too much while having pre-existing heart conditions (which was one of those 'don't take if you have this' warnings). I guess what I'm getting at here is, what's your main objective in doing this presentation? Getting the EMS people to get into better shape? Telling them NOT to use supps? Telling to use supps, but with caution? If you're just trying to caution them about supps, from what you've said about them and their lifestyles, they either don't know what supps are or they think they're some sort of miracle cure for their fatness. In either case, I would think it'd be better to educate them on good nutrition and exercise programs instead of pushing and/or putting the scare tactics on with supps. If you really want to warn them about 'supps' that can and do have the main potential for side effects, talk to them about the dangers of illegal steroid use. That's an area where you'll get some great "I was an idiot and didn't cycle/load/use properly" stories. |
I have no clue what you're looking for. First you ask for horror stories about supplements in order to educate public safety workers, then you talk about their own lack of fitness and poor diet.
The poor fitness and poor dietary habits of people are not correlated to supplement horror stories. There are lots of fat out of shape people that don't take any supplements, let alone in mass quantities. And the fitness level or habitual diet of public safety workers has absolutely no impact on their ability to treat people. Maybe they don't know alot about supplements because they don't need to know, because there are no 'horror' stories. To go back to your original post, suppose someone took that gallon of tang and creatine. What's going to happen to them and how would you treat it? I'm curious to know what kind of horror story you expect and training you think is necessary, aside from common sense. |
Thank you for the thoughtful postings, all of you
Treating the original example, the patient would experience runaway diarrhea, dehydration and abdominal cramping. The treatment (knowing what it was) would be supportive care and transport to the hospital. Any conditions it caused would be treated accordingly, of course. Not knowing what it was could have doctors digging into their exotic case files and coming up with extremely rare viral infections and running a bunch of expensive tests, possibly putting the patient under (expensive) isolation orders while trying to find some cause. Imagine waking up to discover that your appendix had been removed "Just to be on the safe side." If the medics are aware of the products and possible side-effects, they can ask better questions (supplements are not always mentioned when people ask about Last Meal, etc.) That is the purpose of this presentation. The medics are taught about the same things for household chemicals, industrial chemicals, etc., but the 'food' type stuff is a subclass with which many people are not familiar. The EPHEDRA example mentioned earlier is exactly what I'm talking about. Thank you, IronKitten. Keep them coming! |
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