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FlyUSMC · 03-24-2007, 10:54 AM

Before squatting yesterday my knees were hurting a very little bit. Not sure why, but they were. Through the squats I could feel them but they didn't really hurt, same for the rest of the day. Today I was working out on an erg (rowing machine), and they were hurting a bit, and now that I'm done they're hurting when I walk. Not terrible, but hurting. Question is, I won't squat/DL again until Monday, would it be wise to do so if they still hurt a bit? I don't think they will, but want to make sure.
In other news, Rippetoe's is doing well. So far my numbers are looking like this:
Squat: 3x5, 155lb (up next time)
Bench: 3x5, 145lb (staying there next time)
Deads: 1x5, 185lb (up next time)
Military: 3x5, 95lb (staying)
Rows: 3x5, 125lb (staying)
Dips: 2x8, all the way down, 45lb (staying)
Also doing some ab work, everything as a whole is going very well. Just gotta stop hurting myself

FlyUSMC · 03-25-2007, 04:00 PM

I hate to do this, but I'm gonna bump this one... I want to make sure I don't screw anything up. I still feel pain in my knees if they're all the way compressed, not terrible but pain nonetheless. I know that taking a day off isn't good for the routine, but is it a wise idea? Maybe less weight? Don't know how this happened with squats, maybe it didn't, but who knows..

TALO · 03-25-2007, 05:10 PM

I would take a break if they're bugging you that much.

when your squatting how far apart are your legs ? Do your knees stay straight above your toes or do they bend ? R u keeping you back straight or bending forward to far ?

They're are alot of possible reasons for this. Maybe the weight is to much for you.....

FlyUSMC · 03-25-2007, 05:23 PM

My feet are shoulder width apart, toes pointed straight forward. I need to be paying more attention, but I'm pretty sure the knees are staying behind the feet. My back bends forward though, am I supposed to keep it vertical? Seems like that would make balance pretty difficult, but maybe I'm wrong.

Kane · 03-25-2007, 06:57 PM

^^ Your back should remain relatively vertical. You don't want to be folding over at the bottom of the movement and doing a goodmorning as you come up.

Is it a pain or a discomfort? If you're sure its pain then I would say take the time off...If it's a thing where your knees are just uncomfortable or fatigued then you might be alright to keep at it. Sometimes my knee acts up but its more of a discomfort. The way I describe it is "I'm more aware of my knee" since it isn't a pain and it isn't injured.

Eric3237 · 03-25-2007, 06:59 PM

You would be better off if your feet weren't exactly straight ahead but instead point slightly outwards. Make sure the knees stay in line with the toes and that they do not turn inward (too much weight).

Your back should not be vertical. Your right that would be difficult but it should not "round" forward either. You want to set a real tight arch in your back and maintain that. The angle of the back is going to be slighly different for everyone but generally is not more than 45 degrees and most should be more close to vertical.

There's a good squat article in the Training Articles section that should help you get any from issues squared away.

widdoes2504 · 03-26-2007, 10:01 AM

If you are experiencing pain your best bet is probably to back off a little bit to heal up. On the other hand if it is discomfort you can modify your form like Eric and Kane have mentioned and utilize some knee wraps to better protect yourself. Just a thought. Either way take care of yourself and keep up the good work.

03-24-2007, 10:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
FlyUSMC Rank: Member Experience: > 1 Year Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 281 Country: Gender:	Another pain Before squatting yesterday my knees were hurting a very little bit. Not sure why, but they were. Through the squats I could feel them but they didn't really hurt, same for the rest of the day. Today I was working out on an erg (rowing machine), and they were hurting a bit, and now that I'm done they're hurting when I walk. Not terrible, but hurting. Question is, I won't squat/DL again until Monday, would it be wise to do so if they still hurt a bit? I don't think they will, but want to make sure. In other news, Rippetoe's is doing well. So far my numbers are looking like this: Squat: 3x5, 155lb (up next time) Bench: 3x5, 145lb (staying there next time) Deads: 1x5, 185lb (up next time) Military: 3x5, 95lb (staying) Rows: 3x5, 125lb (staying) Dips: 2x8, all the way down, 45lb (staying) Also doing some ab work, everything as a whole is going very well. Just gotta stop hurting myself
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03-25-2007, 04:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
FlyUSMC Rank: Member Experience: > 1 Year Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 281 Country: Gender:	I hate to do this, but I'm gonna bump this one... I want to make sure I don't screw anything up. I still feel pain in my knees if they're all the way compressed, not terrible but pain nonetheless. I know that taking a day off isn't good for the routine, but is it a wise idea? Maybe less weight? Don't know how this happened with squats, maybe it didn't, but who knows..
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03-25-2007, 05:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
TALO Rank: Lightweight Experience: 5-7 Years Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Alberta , Canada Posts: 1,921 Country: Gender:	I would take a break if they're bugging you that much. when your squatting how far apart are your legs ? Do your knees stay straight above your toes or do they bend ? R u keeping you back straight or bending forward to far ? They're are alot of possible reasons for this. Maybe the weight is to much for you.....
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03-25-2007, 05:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
FlyUSMC Rank: Member Experience: > 1 Year Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 281 Country: Gender:	My feet are shoulder width apart, toes pointed straight forward. I need to be paying more attention, but I'm pretty sure the knees are staying behind the feet. My back bends forward though, am I supposed to keep it vertical? Seems like that would make balance pretty difficult, but maybe I'm wrong.
	FlyUSMC's Sig:My internet muscles are huge. Cutting.

03-25-2007, 06:57 PM	#5 (permalink)
Kane Rank: Lightweight Experience: 3-5 Years Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,416 Country: Gender:	^^ Your back should remain relatively vertical. You don't want to be folding over at the bottom of the movement and doing a goodmorning as you come up. Is it a pain or a discomfort? If you're sure its pain then I would say take the time off...If it's a thing where your knees are just uncomfortable or fatigued then you might be alright to keep at it. Sometimes my knee acts up but its more of a discomfort. The way I describe it is "I'm more aware of my knee" since it isn't a pain and it isn't injured.
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03-25-2007, 06:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
Eric3237 Moderator Rank: Heavyweight Experience: 7-10 Years Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,443 Country: Gender:	You would be better off if your feet weren't exactly straight ahead but instead point slightly outwards. Make sure the knees stay in line with the toes and that they do not turn inward (too much weight). Your back should not be vertical. Your right that would be difficult but it should not "round" forward either. You want to set a real tight arch in your back and maintain that. The angle of the back is going to be slighly different for everyone but generally is not more than 45 degrees and most should be more close to vertical. There's a good squat article in the Training Articles section that should help you get any from issues squared away.
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03-26-2007, 10:01 AM	#7 (permalink)
widdoes2504 Rank: Lightweight Experience: 10+ Years Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 1,210 Country: Gender:	If you are experiencing pain your best bet is probably to back off a little bit to heal up. On the other hand if it is discomfort you can modify your form like Eric and Kane have mentioned and utilize some knee wraps to better protect yourself. Just a thought. Either way take care of yourself and keep up the good work.
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