Anyone help me out? Pecs..

[MONSTAFACE]

aight, you making it sound more complicated than what it actually is. he said one side is bigger/ stronger than the other. so i said throw in pushups with your regular workload. im telling him to throw in an exercise where your dominant side cant function without the other unless you been working on just one side of your body your whole life.

its not magic, its not a scientific experiment, and you dont need a phd. drop to the floor and do pushups until your tired and if one side gets to tired and cant handle it you MIGHT be able to finish that pushup half way and thats it.

he wants balance so i gave him some references to exercises that give you balance. and why would i tell him to go lift heavy all crazy anyway. if his one side is more dominant than the other he wont be able to finish. he would have a better chance of playing catch up if we worked with a weight he could control. he will go lift heavy weight and since his one arm wont be able to finish he will compensate by arching his back all crazy and then his whole form is fucked from here on out. with pushups you cant do shit else to compensate beside opening your hand position (which just puts more on your chest instead of tris) and possibly speeding up your reps. all in all both your arms are doing the same work load at the same pace. you wont be doing a set of ten on the bench where your right arm goes up quicker every set.


and their are ways for him to increase the weight of his pushups. they have push up bars, he can elevate his feet, and have different angles with his hands.

i never said pushups was the absolute way to do it, but i know for a fact through my own experience that pushups help even out your bench and shoulder press. will it work for everyone? I have no clue. but its not like i gave him some superwork out plan to follow. they are just pushups. he can do them in between commercials of watching tv before he goes to bed, before he takes a shit, whatever.

it aint that serious. i offered my 2 cents on what worked for me and its up to him whether he follows the advice or not. i didnt tell him to put 300 pounds on a bench and do backflips on it. i told him to "include" one of the oldest excersices known to man.......................a pushup.

I havent heard a soul complain about pushups not being good for anyone. and if they complain about them 10 times out of ten they hate them because they cant do them

[Cradler]

Originally Posted by MONSTAFACE

it aint that serious. i offered my 2 cents on what worked for me and its up to him whether he follows the advice or not. i didnt tell him to put 300 pounds on a bench and do backflips on it.

ROFL well said Monsta. I agree with the pushup suggestion, I don't know the science of it either but it works/worked for me.

@ Sent: I've always wondered about that. I know bp is mainly tri/shoulder work, so what DOES work the pecs? Is it worth specifically training pecs at all or would you say just do the normal compounds and it'll work out anyway?

[MONSTAFACE]

form what i understand the wider your grip the more stress on your pecs. i actually tried it before and i did feel the difference. i wouldnt say go snatch grip but i have seen people do it that way. if its yoru first time trying it just get a regular weight you can handle and open your grip up. open it up until you get right before exaggerating it and then try it. please dont treat it like yoru regular bench if your not used to it. and from what i understand it is good to switch how far yoru grip is.


also you can feel dumbell presses more in yoru pecs because you are getting wider with the decent.

[Kane]

Bench still works your chest a bit, but not much. I've gotten my absolute best gains from doing heavy dumbbell flyes. Nothing fancy just plain old flat dumbbell flyes.

I don't agree with you, Monsta, with the wide grip. Wide grip puts alot of stress on your shoulders, I wouldn't use wide grip bench for reps. There are better ways to work your chest ime.

Stakd: If your avatar is a pic of you, I wouldn't worry about any imbalances. Just keep lifting and see how things go, it could even be just the way your muscle is shaped. Afterall our muscles are not perfect and your biceps/pecs/quads/deltoids/lats/etc/etc may not be the exact same shape.

[MONSTAFACE]

i feel you kane. i never do them wide at all. i personaly wouldnt recommend it, but thats just what i heard is better. i just tried it before and i felt it more in my chest than normal. could have been the position i had the bar or something. im not a big fan of them, but just so cradler could get a little feel for them i just gave him a little description on how to try it and then when he is done to do this on the bench.

but for real though would the flyes be good from just a physique stand point or getting stronger? never really did them to tough. i did them in high school when the machine was there bu after that i never really got back to it.

[Kane]

I'd say it is more of a physique and overall muscle health thing.

1)You're not really using your chest for bench, deadlifts or squats so pecs won't help you with the important compounds.

2)You should always be thinking about muscle balance (push=pull). You've got the antagonist and the protagonist. Pecs balance out the upper back (scapula). You want to have a strong front and back, meaning equally strong antagonist and protagonist (or close to that).

Just as an example, some guys can bench alot more than me but I can't out-fly them. What does this mean? Not a whole lot, it means I can fly more and they can bench more. I've got a bigger rack but it doesn't help me from a strength standpoint unless I'm only using my pecs.

[MONSTAFACE]

good bread, i got you now. see your gonna start making me pay more attention in class now when the teacher talks about antagonist and the protagonist

[MONSTAFACE]

and Kane gives a good example of something for physique and overall muscle health when it comes to your pecs stakd. my 2 cents in reference to the pushups helps with overall strength equality IMO. plus i did pushups on monday and my chest is on FIIIIIIIYYYYAAA.

[stakd]

i've been doing a lot of push ups since i posted this and everything seems to be filling out evenly
not so much visually, but i can feel it
just followin up.. thanks everyone

[widdoes2504]

Good to hear things are working out for you