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rebellious · 07-31-2005, 11:51 AM

i am trying to limit my weightlifting to one hour per day with about four on one off: chest/triceps, back, legs, shoulders/biceps; however, i do 15-20 mins after lifting on the treadmill at 7.0mph; i like to do the cardio every day to relax, relieve stress, help w/ sleep, etc. but i'm worried it may be detrimental to the lifting; also, i have been skipping legs because its tough to do cardio after legs; thoughts

verbatimreturned · 07-31-2005, 12:03 PM

never skip legs they are very important, skip cardio that day instead. check out this thread it basically explains it all http://www.bodybuilding.net/showthread.php?t=842

Darkhorse · 07-31-2005, 04:31 PM

Read the article I posted entitled: "Squatting for big arms" That should at least point you in the direction that your body responds to heavy poundages from deadlifts, squatting, ect. Your body WILL grow like a weed if you include legs. It's waay more important than cardio. Shit, I squat three times a week and my size reflects that.

WantingMuscle7 · 07-31-2005, 04:33 PM

Hmm I was doing squats once a week do u recommend doing it 2-3?

Darkhorse · 07-31-2005, 04:40 PM

NO, just depends on your program. 80% of anyone lifting will be the first to say, "If you squat more than once a week, you aren't doing it heavy enough!" That's a crock of shit. Those same fools load up 405 on the bar and do quarter squats!

I'm doing Bill Star's 5x5 using Madcow1's variation. Now...I do believe it IS impossible to do squats 3 times a week with the same heavy weight (ass to the grass). So what I do is: This is the way I begin every workout, not including the rest of what I do...
Monday: 5x5 olympic squats (same weight each set <heavy>)
Wednesday: 5x5 olympic squats (same weight each set <reduced 20% from Monday>)
Friday: 5x5 olympic squats (Pyramiding up. example- 185x5, 205x5, 225x5, ect)

This way I don't burn out. I'm actually going to make a thread about this for people to try.

WantingMuscle7 · 07-31-2005, 04:58 PM

Oh ok lol if I were to come up with a program for myself for 3 squats a week id do same thing everytime. For now im doing 1 day a week but I may try maybe monday squats and friday squats or somehting like that in the future.

rebellious · 07-31-2005, 05:12 PM

for cardio anyway since it really gets you winded and sweaty; i am assuming you are talking about squats w/ a barbell (rather than the seated or standing machines) since it works the upperbody in that you have to keep the weight balanced;

however, deadlifts are a lower back strain waiting to happen for me (guess that's form but i can't seem to get it right); anyone have suggestions about an alternitive for deadlifts that are safer? how about a "deadlift" using two dumbells so i don't get bent over?

verbatimreturned · 07-31-2005, 05:20 PM

about your deadlift problem, have you invested in a belt if your worried about your lower back?

07-31-2005, 11:51 AM	#1 (permalink)
rebellious Rank: New Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3	cardio every workout? i am trying to limit my weightlifting to one hour per day with about four on one off: chest/triceps, back, legs, shoulders/biceps; however, i do 15-20 mins after lifting on the treadmill at 7.0mph; i like to do the cardio every day to relax, relieve stress, help w/ sleep, etc. but i'm worried it may be detrimental to the lifting; also, i have been skipping legs because its tough to do cardio after legs; thoughts

07-31-2005, 04:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
Darkhorse Moderator Rank: Light Heavyweight Experience: 7-10 Years Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,937 Country: Gender:	Read the article I posted entitled: "Squatting for big arms" That should at least point you in the direction that your body responds to heavy poundages from deadlifts, squatting, ect. Your body WILL grow like a weed if you include legs. It's waay more important than cardio. Shit, I squat three times a week and my size reflects that.
	Darkhorse's Sig:"The greater the development and strength of the main muscular structures of the body, the greater the size and strength potential of the small areas of the body." - Stuart McRobert OCSC

07-31-2005, 04:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
Darkhorse Moderator Rank: Light Heavyweight Experience: 7-10 Years Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,937 Country: Gender:	NO, just depends on your program. 80% of anyone lifting will be the first to say, "If you squat more than once a week, you aren't doing it heavy enough!" That's a crock of shit. Those same fools load up 405 on the bar and do quarter squats! I'm doing Bill Star's 5x5 using Madcow1's variation. Now...I do believe it IS impossible to do squats 3 times a week with the same heavy weight (ass to the grass). So what I do is: This is the way I begin every workout, not including the rest of what I do... Monday: 5x5 olympic squats (same weight each set <heavy>) Wednesday: 5x5 olympic squats (same weight each set <reduced 20% from Monday>) Friday: 5x5 olympic squats (Pyramiding up. example- 185x5, 205x5, 225x5, ect) This way I don't burn out. I'm actually going to make a thread about this for people to try.
	Darkhorse's Sig:"The greater the development and strength of the main muscular structures of the body, the greater the size and strength potential of the small areas of the body." - Stuart McRobert OCSC

07-31-2005, 05:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
rebellious Rank: New Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3	doing squats seems like a good replacement... for cardio anyway since it really gets you winded and sweaty; i am assuming you are talking about squats w/ a barbell (rather than the seated or standing machines) since it works the upperbody in that you have to keep the weight balanced; however, deadlifts are a lower back strain waiting to happen for me (guess that's form but i can't seem to get it right); anyone have suggestions about an alternitive for deadlifts that are safer? how about a "deadlift" using two dumbells so i don't get bent over?

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07-31-2005, 12:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
verbatimreturned Rank: Lightweight Experience: 2-3 Years Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: new york Posts: 1,376 Country: Gender:	never skip legs they are very important, skip cardio that day instead. check out this thread it basically explains it all http://www.bodybuilding.net/showthread.php?t=842

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WantingMuscle7 Rank: Bantamweight Experience: 1-2 Years Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PA Posts: 687 Country:	Hmm I was doing squats once a week do u recommend doing it 2-3?

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WantingMuscle7 Rank: Bantamweight Experience: 1-2 Years Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PA Posts: 687 Country:	Oh ok lol if I were to come up with a program for myself for 3 squats a week id do same thing everytime. For now im doing 1 day a week but I may try maybe monday squats and friday squats or somehting like that in the future.

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verbatimreturned Rank: Lightweight Experience: 2-3 Years Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: new york Posts: 1,376 Country: Gender:	about your deadlift problem, have you invested in a belt if your worried about your lower back?

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