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Old 01-02-2008, 10:01 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I agree that it depends on the person. I was trying to point out that some programs may start out on the right track with volume but eventually it gets to be too much and modification of the program is required. Maybe he is just at that point? I dunno, Eric is a smart dude, listen to him! lol
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Old 01-03-2008, 12:47 PM   #12 (permalink)
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No, no, I agree with you. Especially in programs like this where you can't really go freestyle too much without changing the point of everything. The thing is I don't want to say "that's too much volume on deadlifts" simply because it's not really that bad...I've done that kind of thing and so have others. It's usually more of a loading issue and things like that. But whatever we say about something that may relate to this program will tend to get generalized across the board by 90% of those who read it and I try to avoid that since it creates a lot of misunderstanding later on.

That’s really what I was getting at in the first place, it being too much too soon. It’s only that the reason I think that is different. It is not because I believe you can only ever do X amount of deadlifting. I think that the reason people get into trouble with this is trying to cover too many goals at once. One really big thing I disagree with is that a couple sets of light whatever is all you need to “learn” a lift and then you are ready to go balls to the wall programming it into a progression. You get experts telling you that these lifts aren't that technical, blah, blah, blah and it's all about paying attention to form, etc. Am I saying that everyone is going to get severely injured and all that? Of course not. What I am saying, is that if you go knocking on said expert's door asking him to help rehab your injury he's going to slam the door in your face

By the same token being able to do a lot of weight with low volume and being able to handle higher amounts of volume, even for the very experienced is two very different things. Obviously higher volume means lighter load, right? But does lighter load mean you can do any certain amount of volume? What amount local muscular endurance? I could go on and on about this stuff but there is probably no point.

The truth is what you have to fear is not how much or how little you can do of anything. It's the "experts" giving you hard and fast RULEs designed to fit everyone that you really have to be wary of.

Eric3237's Sig:"Not everyone trains for strength": True. Not everyone one is smart either. Personally, I'm training to be an olympic sprinter so I can have big legs. I also like to move huge boulders because I like the way they look over there...
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