Dfht

[Darkhorse]

the 5x5 advanced ,9 weeks and i made great progress and i just started dfht today

Just for the hell of it.. Why would you do the advanced program when you're relatively new to lifting? I understand that newbies generally take the first piece of eye pleasing candy they see, but there's no way under the sun you could stand to benefit from planned overreaching. Guess it doesn't matter. If you WERE to make "great progress", then there's no reason to dip your stick in the next piece of eye candy is there??

Doeth as you will. I don't see DFHT working any better than what you were already doing.

[Kane]

I love giving advice and answering question.....especially when people take the advice

[RabidRabbit]

It took me four months of dickin around to realize I was a noob... For some reason it is tought to accept lol. Now I have fully embraced my noobiness and am having a good time with a beginners proggy.

[EricT]

You know when you are new enough to lifting any progress is great progress compared to the absolute lack of progress you have from not lifting. But I don't think most new lifter actually understand the amazing amount of progress they SHOULD be able to make compared to the people who have progressed to the point where they actually need advanced programs.

The most obvious example would be Rabbit's journal. This is not going to be a matter of "wow, I put 20 or 30 pounds on my max". It should absolutely blow that out of the water. LOL, he'll be hittng a new pr everytime he hits the gym for quite a while if he plays it right (and I suspect he will). If you can do that, then doing it any other way is pretty shortsighted.

[EricT]

I wanted to add something about this business of training status. Not necessarily aimed at the OP but what Rabbit said put me in mind of it. Whether you are a beginner, intermediate, or advanced in regards to these programs has very little to do with training time. Training AGE, and time in training are two different things in that regard.

There are guys who have been training for 2 or 3 years and could still benefit greatly from the beginner program. If you've been doing nothing but bodypart splits for a year or even more, going into full-bodies assuming you are intermediate could be a mistake and you could still be able to progress workout to workout in the starting strength fashion. Perhaps for not as long as if you were an absolute novice but certainly good progress gained a lot more efficiently than skipping right to weekly loading, let alone advanced loading .

So if anyone is not sure where you stand and this type of training is new to you, try the Starting Strength. It won't hurt you and may just put you well ahead of the game.

[_Wolf_]

eric is the official pimp of the starting strength program and i am in persuit. i also the pimp of mark rippetoe's 2 books: starting strength and practical programming. they are the best 2 books i have read from the 7-10 i have read so far...

[Kane]

^^ lol

To be honest, sometimes I wonder why I've done the programs I have. I could still be considered a novice lifter (with my 3yrs of REAL exp) but somehow I've found myself mixed in with the intermediate and advanced programming.

[EricT]

Well like I said it has not much to do with actual time. It depends on the time frames in which you are able to advance. There is no way you could advance on a workout to workout basis for very long at this point. So the next question would be how long a time frame you would need. Probably with the right program you could still be very successful doing intermediate programs. But you've gone into advanced so now you may have committed yourself. Hopefully you can keep progressing without your training becoming ridiculously complex . But lets see how you feel when you're my age...

[hrdgain81]

To be honest, sometimes I wonder why I've done the programs I have. I could still be considered a novice lifter (with my 3yrs of REAL exp) but somehow I've found myself mixed in with the intermediate and advanced programming.

your not the only one bro. Hell I did three cycles of HST, and now I couldnt care any less about hypertrophy. Its a learning process kane, no worries.