Discomfort/Pain from Squatting

[_Wolf_]

Originally Posted by Andrew.cook

I think that if you want good carry over to the squat your better bet would be to go with good mornings as a sub. The guys at WSBB are all about the GM's, so you know it has to be good.

I actually hate good mornings. They mess a lot of things up for me.

I like GHRs, Box Squats, etc a lot more. I also love unilateral leg work...

[Andrew.cook]

Nobody should like GM's, they are hard, but that is why they work. They put you at just about the worst possible mechanical dissadvantage possible.

Wouldn't be great with back problems, but then again done correctly it could be a good rehab tool.

Mostly I was thinking that if the ITB irritation came while squatting, that chances are anything that required moving the knee through a ROM would be just as likely to irritate it. That pretty much eliminates everything but GM's. I like box squats and GHR's, but chances are they would be jsut as brutal on any potential injury.

[cavman]

The pull-ups, dips question was off topic. Just wanted to know if they would be a good addition to the SS routine. My stance is a little wider than shoulder width w/feet pointing out a little bit. Knees seem to be tracking in lline with the feet. Trying to keep form as taught in the SS book and squat rx vids (low bar). Did a regular workout today. Dynamic stretching after warm-up, again after squatting, then again after the workout. When I got home the legs, hips, just about everything was hurting. Figure it must be in large part due to the stretching, probably take awhile for it to help. Just going to stretch and work on depth and form with really light weight on wednesday in the squats. See how that feels. Will sart using that roller as soon as it gets here. I really don't want to stop squatting and deadlifts, that's like the meat of these workouts.

[Pitysister]

i love dips and pullups as an addition to SS....do you have a belt you can add weight to?

[cavman]

Yeah, the gym has a belt. It's one of those assistance pull-ups/dips machines. Has a counter weight stack. I have to use the counter weight at 80, (started at 140), on pull-ups for 8 reps. I use body weight for dips at 13 reps now. Can't weight til I can strap on the belt with just even 10# on dips and no assistance on pull-ups. Consistancy and patientence I keep telling myself. This morning most all of my hurting has subsided. Still have the ITB problem squatting for anything or getting up from sitting.

[cavman]

I'm doing (A) Squat, Bench, Deadlift, Dips-(B) Squat, OH Press, Row, Pull-ups, alternating 3 day's per week. Try to get 2 HIIT sessions inbetween. This should be enough to get the whole body, right? Would like to concentrate on these lifts for a good long while to get good and strong at them. That's if the ITB problem responds to self therapy.

[cavman]

The guy in the suit towards the bottom-I'm getting that low or real close to it, working on getting lower, My stance is the same but probably a little wider.

[cavman]

http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=1856085
Forgot this.

[Andrew.cook]

I would still vote for the GM's in place of the squats. The carry over is excellent and it should not irritate your ITB. The alternative is that you can continue to squat and continue to irritate the problem. I doubt that your ITB issue is necessarily related to weight so much as the ROM. My best guess is that something is rubbing funny when you squat and that is causing the pain. Since anything squatting causes the pain, it isn't going to do you much good to reduce the weight. In fact, if you were intent to continue on, you might as well go full weight on it.

...for the record that would be a bad idea.

[cavman]

So I would have to replace squats and deadlifts. Would this be just until the ITB problem heals?