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01-05-2008, 03:22 PM
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|  dynamic row I was reading a post on starting a 5x5 program and part of it is doing dynamic rows. I'm not brand new at working out but i have no idea what a dynamic row is can anyone tell me send a link to a video or something thanx |
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01-06-2008, 07:47 AM
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Gender:  | Looks like a chicken. Probably a real effective way to waste your time. That guy could have just done a good group of cleans, or hang cleans or snatches and got a whole lot more out of it instead of whatever the heck all that mess was. Dynamic = energetic or forceful. Thank God someone invented these "dynamic rows" because I've always performed my rows with absolutely no force or energy in as snail-like a fashion as possible. That's why I really need to do dynamic effort on bench and stuff because all the other days I try to see if I can move the bar so slow I turn back time  This is what you have to ask yourself. Why is it that on any other exercise the word "dynamic" is only applied to basically speed work. So that when you do speed or acceleration work on bench, or deads or anything you do it WITH CORRECT FORM only as fast as possible and you usually of course lower the weigth in order to focus on velocity. Speed benchpress is still bench. A speed deadlfit is exactly the same as a regular deadlfit except faster. But with rows... It's a mess. To start with you can't get 3 people to agree on how to do a regular row let alone this dynamic thingamajig. It might be nice to have some consensus of opinion on what a wheel is before it is reinvented. I can tell you that in my opinion that thing in the vid ain't a row  . More like an abortion.Call it the bastard child of a row and the oly lifts. For some reason many of the "experts" who write their "HOW TO BILL STARR" articles put in the "dynamic row". The whole thing is a little silly and ironic. Bill Starr didn't put rows in programs. He used oly derivatives like power cleans, high pulls (power pulls), what we would call a power shrug, things like that. Dynamic, explosive, highly effective and everything that row above is not. At the same time he didn't like deadlifts. He thought they were too dangerous because of shear weight and preferred the lighter explosive lifts. Now you get people putting in deadlifts but leaving out any oly lifts because they are too technical and risky or simply because people will be too lazy to learn them. So they put in sloppy ass row hybrids instead. Kinda strange. I don't have to agree with everything Starr said or did. He also liked behind the neck pressing, for example. But if I wanted to do something along those lines that is "dynamic" (which I would rather call explosive) I would do powercleans or highpulls instead of that little barbell stutter with about a three inch range of motion. Most of us should be doing lots more posterior chain work anyway. Deadlfit variations, pullthroughs, oly lifts if desired, glute-ham raises, so on. The effective training of which will be a hundred times more effective for the posterior chain as well as the entire back ESPECIALLY if you save the row exercises to be done correctly with a full range of motion to target the upper and mid back. Last edited by Eric3237; 01-06-2008 at 10:43 AM. Reason: fixed a typo |
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01-06-2008, 10:59 AM
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01-06-2008, 12:29 PM
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I just watched the whole thing. You just know he's telling his boy "don't shut it off yet, I can do this"
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