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Old 10-08-2006, 06:43 AM   #21 (permalink)
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LOL, Mark I've agreed with plenty of things you've said. I know you have lots of sense when it comes to this stuff.

Kurt I think the pullups are doable in terms of just having the powercleans but were you to increase on them enough to have any real bearing on you lats then the workload will start getting a lot bigger than you would normally want. Good luck on it.

One thing I would like to make clear about my viewpoint on all this is the whole confusion about what it represents. (I'm know longer trying to convince you, Kurt). We have been all over this subject about hypertrophy vs. stength, blah, blah, and to me it's all poppycock and does nothing but confuse.

The mentality issue that 0311 brought up is very apt. But lets remember what this program is about. It is not about training specific muscles, i.e. lats. THAT is bodybuilder thinking. It IS about strength. It IS about training lifts, training movements. The hypertrophy comes with it. At it's heart it's about loading the bar as long as possible.

If whatever you do is not either training a movement and adding numbers to that movement or directly contributing to that goal then to me it's at LEAST a waste of time. Maybe worse. That even means that if the tricep work means you can't get the bench up then that needs to cut down or disappear. I am not talking about being wimpy and whining about overtraining I am talking about riding that supercompensation wave as long as possible. You WON'T overtrain. I never even hinted at that. That's a long term syndrome and not what I'm talking about.

The pullups may be fine and good luck with them. I can never prove anything here just as you will never know whether you would have run the program longer. But if by week 4 or so you're not progressing well you should reavaluate...and of course as you go along.

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Old 10-09-2006, 04:22 AM   #22 (permalink)
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