Hitting a Wall (hope this isn't too obvious) - Bodybuilding Discussion on Bodybuilding.net Training Forum

Cradler · 08-03-2007, 11:07 AM

Hello,

I've been lifting for maybe two years, although the latter of those two was much more productive as I've used a lot of the information I found on this site (and henceforth stopped being one of those lifters who does preacher curls with a 2" range of motion and actually starts getting serious about squats, etc., etc.). I eat well - no junk food, definitely no soda, obviously no drugs, alcohol, anything, and a huge amount of good calories.

My problem is just that as far as my bench goes, I've basically hit a wall, and the posts on this forum (especially the "Why Aren't I Growing" sticky) make me think this is at least something of a natural occurrence. What I don't know is what to do when this happens. I hope I'm not sounding like I'm ignoring the posts already here - I read the stickies but maybe I missed something.

If anyone could help me with some general advice for how to get over basically a wall in my benching, I'd be very appreciative.

Thanks.

TALO · 08-03-2007, 11:14 AM

Have you been on any type of workout program ? There are a few out there that will help you with this problem.

hrdgain81 · 08-03-2007, 11:21 AM

yeah, what does your w/o schedule look like, and what program are you running?

Cradler · 08-03-2007, 01:38 PM

I've was following a basic Rippetoe program, with the addition of DB triceps extensions and pullups.

Cradler · 08-03-2007, 01:40 PM

Er, "I've was" should be "I've been".

Also - for more clarity, I've been lifting usually on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday of each week, alternating as per the Rippetoe program workouts.

Darkhorse · 08-04-2007, 04:32 AM

Sometimes the simplest answer proves to be the most effective. It could simply be a case of undereating. You said a "huge amount". Could you post an example of a day? Additionally, if you create a FREE account on fitday.com and input a day of eating, 9/10 you're overestimating by 1,000 cals lol. Same thing happened to me.

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I eat well - no junk food, definitely no soda, obviously no drugs, alcohol, anything, and a huge amount of good calories.

Cradler · 08-04-2007, 06:08 AM

0311: Haha, I feel like a novice indeed now. I used fitday and input an average day for me and I was overestimating by a lot. I guess I gotta do some more eating... like a lot.

Thanks for the link 0311.

Cradler · 08-04-2007, 06:09 AM

As sort of an add-on to that (sorry I keep double posting): how should one eat on a non-lifting day? Less, or just keep it the same?

Darkhorse · 08-04-2007, 06:54 AM

I would fluctuate protein and carb totals between lifting and non lifting days. I usually am about +/- 50 grams of each between those days. Basically, the totals will be obviously lower when you hash out the pre/postworkout nutrition. Hopefully you have something preworkout such as BCAA's or whey, and an additional protein and carb shake postworkout which will add to your totals.

Cradler · 08-04-2007, 02:27 PM

Thanks a lot 0311 for your input on both those questions.

08-03-2007, 11:07 AM	#1 (permalink)
Cradler Rank: Member Experience: 1-2 Years Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston Posts: 280 Country: Gender:	Hitting a Wall (hope this isn't too obvious) Hello, I've been lifting for maybe two years, although the latter of those two was much more productive as I've used a lot of the information I found on this site (and henceforth stopped being one of those lifters who does preacher curls with a 2" range of motion and actually starts getting serious about squats, etc., etc.). I eat well - no junk food, definitely no soda, obviously no drugs, alcohol, anything, and a huge amount of good calories. My problem is just that as far as my bench goes, I've basically hit a wall, and the posts on this forum (especially the "Why Aren't I Growing" sticky) make me think this is at least something of a natural occurrence. What I don't know is what to do when this happens. I hope I'm not sounding like I'm ignoring the posts already here - I read the stickies but maybe I missed something. If anyone could help me with some general advice for how to get over basically a wall in my benching, I'd be very appreciative. Thanks.

08-03-2007, 11:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
TALO Rank: Lightweight Experience: 5-7 Years Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Alberta , Canada Posts: 1,940 Country: Gender:	Have you been on any type of workout program ? There are a few out there that will help you with this problem.
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08-03-2007, 01:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
Cradler Rank: Member Experience: 1-2 Years Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston Posts: 280 Country: Gender:	I've was following a basic Rippetoe program, with the addition of DB triceps extensions and pullups.

08-03-2007, 01:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
Cradler Rank: Member Experience: 1-2 Years Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston Posts: 280 Country: Gender:	Er, "I've was" should be "I've been". Also - for more clarity, I've been lifting usually on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday of each week, alternating as per the Rippetoe program workouts.

08-04-2007, 06:08 AM	#7 (permalink)
Cradler Rank: Member Experience: 1-2 Years Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston Posts: 280 Country: Gender:	0311: Haha, I feel like a novice indeed now. I used fitday and input an average day for me and I was overestimating by a lot. I guess I gotta do some more eating... like a lot. Thanks for the link 0311.

08-04-2007, 06:09 AM	#8 (permalink)
Cradler Rank: Member Experience: 1-2 Years Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston Posts: 280 Country: Gender:	As sort of an add-on to that (sorry I keep double posting): how should one eat on a non-lifting day? Less, or just keep it the same?

08-04-2007, 02:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
Cradler Rank: Member Experience: 1-2 Years Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston Posts: 280 Country: Gender:	Thanks a lot 0311 for your input on both those questions.

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