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Kane · 02-13-2008, 06:15 PM

What set me off was having all the sets to failure and going from 20 reps to 4 reps to 10 reps...but mostly the fact that it was advice given to a beginner. Hence my post about it being rediculous for the OP

_Wolf_ · 02-13-2008, 06:24 PM

i dont think there is anything wrong with failure per se (it isnt the best idea for a beginner though) and going from 20 reps to 4 reps has its place. i did high volume deads and then a peak set afterwards when i was recovering from my injury. i use failure all the time....like when i do pull-ups for example.

Kane · 02-13-2008, 08:39 PM

^^But in context with the OP...He's looking for size and strength, not recovering from an injury. And pull-ups is one thing, but the advice given was for 'no matter what you're doing'.

I want to be clear. I'm not trying to shit on you Anuj, nor am I trying to say that what was posted is bs in general...I'm saying my posts should be left within the context of this thread and only this thread. That being said, had this scheme been put in as advice for someone recovering from an injury, like you mentioned, then I would say its alright. If it had not blanketed all exercises and had been specific with the exercises (pull-ups as you mentioned), again I might have said it was ok.

I'm still gonna stick with my guns and say that in this context its useless advice.

EricT · 02-14-2008, 04:11 PM

Thanks for the clarifications. That is all I was looking for

BTW, I actually didn't notice the 20 rep part.

--Jwoods-- · 02-15-2008, 08:18 AM

Ok guys ...hey sry for the advise its what i was given..Im a begginer as well, so i dont know whats good and what isnt.

Recently ive been trying to figure out a work out plan. But i have no clue on how many set s of hwat with reps etc.

Anyone know a good post witha simple yet effect work out form

Pitysister · 02-15-2008, 01:16 PM

3 x 5 works pretty well on the 3 big lifts....i learned alot just reading through the journal section of the forum

02-13-2008, 06:15 PM	#21 (permalink)
Kane Rank: Lightweight Experience: 3-5 Years Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,590 Country: Gender:	What set me off was having all the sets to failure and going from 20 reps to 4 reps to 10 reps...but mostly the fact that it was advice given to a beginner. Hence my post about it being rediculous for the OP
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02-13-2008, 06:24 PM	#22 (permalink)
_Wolf_ Rank: Light Heavyweight Experience: 3-5 Years Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Trinity University, San Antonio, Texas Posts: 3,832 Gender:	i dont think there is anything wrong with failure per se (it isnt the best idea for a beginner though) and going from 20 reps to 4 reps has its place. i did high volume deads and then a peak set afterwards when i was recovering from my injury. i use failure all the time....like when i do pull-ups for example.
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02-13-2008, 08:39 PM	#23 (permalink)
Kane Rank: Lightweight Experience: 3-5 Years Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,590 Country: Gender:	^^But in context with the OP...He's looking for size and strength, not recovering from an injury. And pull-ups is one thing, but the advice given was for 'no matter what you're doing'. I want to be clear. I'm not trying to shit on you Anuj, nor am I trying to say that what was posted is bs in general...I'm saying my posts should be left within the context of this thread and only this thread. That being said, had this scheme been put in as advice for someone recovering from an injury, like you mentioned, then I would say its alright. If it had not blanketed all exercises and had been specific with the exercises (pull-ups as you mentioned), again I might have said it was ok. I'm still gonna stick with my guns and say that in this context its useless advice.
	Kane's Sig:Bench:275 [1x1] Deadlift:365 [1x3] A2G Squat:275 [1x3] "Shut up and squat!" "NO, this is my squat rack. Go get your own!"

02-14-2008, 04:11 PM	#24 (permalink)
EricT Moderator Rank: Heavyweight Experience: 7-10 Years Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,835 Country: Gender:	Thanks for the clarifications. That is all I was looking for BTW, I actually didn't notice the 20 rep part. Last edited by EricT; 02-14-2008 at 04:43 PM.
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02-15-2008, 01:16 PM	#26 (permalink)
Pitysister Rank: Middleweight Experience: 1-2 Years Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Midwest Posts: 2,465 Country: Gender:	3 x 5 works pretty well on the 3 big lifts....i learned alot just reading through the journal section of the forum
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02-15-2008, 08:18 AM	#25 (permalink)
--Jwoods-- Rank: New Member Experience: > 1 Year Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Baltimore Posts: 6 Country: Gender:	Ok guys ...hey sry for the advise its what i was given..Im a begginer as well, so i dont know whats good and what isnt. Recently ive been trying to figure out a work out plan. But i have no clue on how many set s of hwat with reps etc. Anyone know a good post witha simple yet effect work out form

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