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Old 01-17-2007, 08:29 PM   #11 (permalink)
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bro, me and kane go back a long way.....he knows what i mean.....im not laughing AT him fyi.....
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some ppl who have recently signed up shouldnt think they know the a2z of this forum

agreed.

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Old 01-17-2007, 09:05 PM   #12 (permalink)
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ummm....NO....we used to 5 reps for flyes too during OVT....
I meant it more like doing flyes as your only exercise for chest versus only doing bench for chest.

We did do that for OVT though, I think it even brought me from an A cup to a B cup

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is it just me or i have read that poted by u thrice in 3 days?
It's probably alot higher than that. No offense to anyone, but you can't tell shit about a program unless you give the frequency, exercises, and sets/reps. I don't know why people would think that just reps, or just sets, or just split are enough to tell what the routine looks like.

If you look at Bill Starr's 5x5, there is bench on 2 days...but one is a 5x5 and the other is a 1x5...BIG difference. And if you just post "Bench 225lbs", it could be for a 1x5, 3x5, 1RM, 3RM, 5x5...so you can see why its becoming my pet peeve lately


Unfortunately Anuj (aka Sentinel) and I do go way back. j/k bro

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Old 01-18-2007, 08:03 AM   #13 (permalink)
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my diet:

breakfast: protein shake and granola bar.
snack 1: 2 hot dogs plain and 2 oz. cheese
lunch: turkey wrap with veggies and a yogurt
snake 2: 2 hard boiled eggs and an orange
dinner: either a chicken salad or chicken and whole wheat noodles
snake 3: bed time protein shake.

i do mix up proteins with tuna and salmon

(on days i workout i also have a protein shake afterwards)

i have seen great gains in strength but muscle gains have slowed recently. I also work out at night about an hour before i go to sleep if that matters. any help would be appreciated.

p.s. - i have lost fat with this diet i used to weigh 210 pounds without any muscle
I would change your diet. I would say eating this way your not going to put on to much muscle. Your starving yourself.

try eating like this.

3900 calories
1950 calories protein/fat
1950 calories carbs

4 oz cereal: Oatmeal, Shredded Wheat or Cream of Wheat 400
1 cup skim milk 90
6 egg whites or 1 scoop Whey Powder 102

Shake: 3 scoops Whey Powder 351
Banana or 2 cup strawberries or 1 1/3 cup blueberries 100
¾ cup diet yogourt 112

1 ½ cup cooked rice or 1 tortilla + ¾ cup cooked rice 327
8 oz chicken breast or 6 oz XL ground beef or 8 oz eye of round 392
or 11 oz tuna
½ cup corn or 1 cup mixed vegs or 1/3 cup corn + 4 T salsa 80

1 cup rice or 7 oz potato 218
8 oz chicken breast or 8 oz eye of round 392
8 oz carrot or 10 oz broccoli or ½ cup corn 80

1 ½ cup rice or 11 oz potato or 2 cup yam 327
8 oz chicken or 6 oz xl ground beef 392
½ cup corn or 2/3 cup peas or 10 oz green beans 80

Shake: 2 scoops whey powder 234
Banana 100
¾ cup diet yogourt 112

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Old 01-18-2007, 08:14 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Hey Unc4life it's good that your are finally lifting to your ability but you need to reread that entire program overview because it sounds like you are screwing it up royally.

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Old 01-18-2007, 08:29 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Hey Unc4life it's good that your are finally lifting to your ability but you need to reread that entire program overview because it sounds like you are screwing it up royally.
i agree.....lol.....i stilll cant believe his results.....

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Old 01-18-2007, 08:31 AM   #16 (permalink)
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and after 3 days ive raised my squat max from 135 to 190 easily, bench is up from 95 to 135
I'm not sure how you took your squat from 135 to 190 in 3 days. I'm not saying you cant lift 190, but if you followed the program as is and used 135 as your 5RM , then it should take you 4 weeks to get back to 135 then after that point you would increase your weight by 5% - 10%. then maybe in another 4 weeks (8 total) you would be at 190.

But if you are doing 190 as your 5RM - then use this #

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Old 01-18-2007, 08:43 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I'm not sure how you took your squat from 135 to 190 in 3 days. I'm not saying you cant lift 190, but if you followed the program as is and used 135 as your 5RM , then it should take you 4 weeks to get back to 135 then after that point you would increase your weight by 5% - 10%. then maybe in another 4 weeks (8 total) you would be at 190.

But if you are doing 190 as your 5RM - then use this #
thats some good advice bro :thumb:

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Old 01-18-2007, 10:41 AM   #18 (permalink)
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your right i prolly was using too little weight as my max cause i never dared put more then 1 plate on at a time, today i did 2 reps of 225 just to see if i could do it but yea i am gonna use 190 as my 5 rep max
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Old 01-18-2007, 06:02 PM   #19 (permalink)
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thats alot for the replys everyone. im going to change my diet up and ill repost my results. with more detail next time haha, sorry about that
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hey jankeface1: why dont u start a journal so the senior members here can help u out?

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