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snype013 · 09-17-2007, 05:17 AM

Look i know that losing fat and gaining mass aint the best thing due to the fact that you need those extra calories to gain that mass.But i was thinking if i do my cardio and eat less but go heavy on all those compounds,squat,bench,pullovers,chin ups ...etc.Then maybe the great amount of HGH(Human growth hormones) might make it possible for me to gain some mass.I just wanted to know the number of reps,exercises and what kind of cardio like HIIT. Thank you

Cradler · 09-17-2007, 09:03 AM

I'm no expert, but here's my take on it: "eating less" means you do not gain mass. Period. If you're eating in a caloric deficit - meaning you take in less than what you use - you will not gain muscle mass. However, you can 'clean bulk' - meaning, you put on muscle by eating clean calories and clean protein/fat/carbs, so you don't put on fat with it. But eating less than what you need means that you will not add mass, and probably not add any poundage to your compound movements either.

hrdgain81 · 09-17-2007, 10:49 AM

This will all depend on your experience. Many noobs will see significant strength/mass gains, at the same time they loose fat. there is a point at which you will no longer be able to do that though, your body will adjust, and you will need to eat more to keep the gains going.

post up your stats, how long you've been at this, and your diet and we should be able to get you going in the right direction.

widdoes2504 · 09-18-2007, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by hrdgain81

This will all depend on your experience. Many noobs will see significant strength/mass gains, at the same time they loose fat. there is a point at which you will no longer be able to do that though, your body will adjust, and you will need to eat more to keep the gains going.

post up your stats, how long you've been at this, and your diet and we should be able to get you going in the right direction.

Agreed. Hell, I wish I still had newbie gains to look forward to sometimes.

webcore · 09-20-2007, 01:45 PM

You should choose which direction you want to head towards; either losing fat or building muscle. You can't pull the rope in both directions.

If you ever happen to gain muscle in a calorie defict state then it's merely bonus.

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snype013 Rank: New Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2	Losing fat and gaining mass Look i know that losing fat and gaining mass aint the best thing due to the fact that you need those extra calories to gain that mass.But i was thinking if i do my cardio and eat less but go heavy on all those compounds,squat,bench,pullovers,chin ups ...etc.Then maybe the great amount of HGH(Human growth hormones) might make it possible for me to gain some mass.I just wanted to know the number of reps,exercises and what kind of cardio like HIIT. Thank you

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09-17-2007, 09:03 AM	#2 (permalink)
Cradler Rank: Member Experience: 1-2 Years Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston Posts: 281 Country: Gender:	I'm no expert, but here's my take on it: "eating less" means you do not gain mass. Period. If you're eating in a caloric deficit - meaning you take in less than what you use - you will not gain muscle mass. However, you can 'clean bulk' - meaning, you put on muscle by eating clean calories and clean protein/fat/carbs, so you don't put on fat with it. But eating less than what you need means that you will not add mass, and probably not add any poundage to your compound movements either.

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