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sciggs · 03-04-2008, 10:36 PM

Hi all this is my first post on the forum. I've been reading around a bit and it seems like a very informative sight. I've got a few questions that maybe y'all could give me some insight about.

I'm 5' 11" tall and weigh about 150 lbs. I've been working out for about a month now with the following routine:
Monday
Bench Press
Incline Press
Decline Press
Overhead Dumbbell Pull
Dumbbell Flys
Cable Crossovers

Tuesdays
Barbell Curls
Dumbbell Hammer Curls
Bent Bar Curls
Alt. Dumbbell Curls
Preacher Curls
Concentration Curls

Wednesdays
Straightbar Pressdowns
Skull Crushers
Overhead Dumbbell Extensions
Rope Pressdown
Reverse Grip Pressdown
Dips

Thursday
Squats
Leg Press
Roman Deadlifts
Leg Extensions
Leg Curls
Calf Raises

Friday
Military Press
Dumbbell Front Raises
Lat Pulldowns
Cable Rows
Shrugs

Also everyday i do abs and swim or run. My goal is really more for tone. I have a skinny build so i figure that getting "cut" should be easier for me since i may have less fat to burn.

I am taking a CellTech creatine and NitroTech protein supplements. I take a scoop of protein when i wake up in the morning and after i work out. I take a scoop of creatine about an hour before i work out.

I am just curious if i am taking the right steps with my supplements and workout routine to get "cut" and also gain some mass. Any insight/criticism would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Sciggs

Darkhorse · 03-04-2008, 10:40 PM

Forget about gaining mass. You're doing a lot of volume, five days a week in addition to running and swimming every day. You're only 150, so with everything that you're doing you're likely burning A LOT of calories per day since your metabolism is probably like a furnace.

What are your daily protein, carb, and fat totals? Do you know? :(

sciggs · 03-04-2008, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 0311

Forget about gaining mass. You're doing a lot of volume, five days a week in addition to running and swimming every day. You're only 150, so with everything that you're doing you're likely burning A LOT of calories per day since your metabolism is probably like a furnace.

What are your daily protein, carb, and fat totals? Do you know? :(

Yes my metabolism is very high. I've always been skinnier but seem to eat more than a lot of my friends who are bigger.

I don't really know any exact numbers on those totals. Don't really think i could put together a guess either.

TALO · 03-04-2008, 10:52 PM

You need to tone it down a bit. Also if your goal is to put on size then you need to take in more calories. I don't know how many your getting, but it's not enough.

Plus, you're over training. Arms do not need there own day and neither do shoulders. Focus on bench,deadlifts and squats.

TALO · 03-04-2008, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sciggs

Yes my metabolism is very high. I've always been skinnier but seem to eat more than a lot of my friends who are bigger.

I don't really know any exact numbers on those totals. Don't really think i could put together a guess either.

Write down what you are eating.

sciggs · 03-04-2008, 11:13 PM

8:00 AM - Protein Shake
10:00 AM- Usually a bagel between classes
12:00 PM - Some type of sandwich
4:00 PM - Some type of small snack (cereal, sandwich, crackers)
6:00 PM Protein Shake
7:00 PM Dinner (mostly beef or chicken)
11:00 PM Cereal

I realize that these probably need to change. These arent exact but they represent a pretty good example of my average day.

TALO · 03-04-2008, 11:58 PM

Just off the top of my head I think your lucky if your getting 1600 cals that's thinking your drinking milk with your shake's. You will not put on size unless you eat

You need more Food...Protein is a must, Carbs - since you want to gain weight, and healthy fats.

ie:
Breakfast
- 2 eggs with 6 egg whites
- two pieces of whole wheat toast with peanut butter
- 1 cup milk

That alone would be over 700 cals

Yours is about 100 maybe 200. BTW a protein shake is not very good to take alone unless you put in some olive oil.

What time do you workout ? What do you take for your pre and post ?

sciggs · 03-05-2008, 12:06 AM

i usually work out between 5-7 PM. I drink milk with my protein shakes. I take creatine about an hour before i work out and protein afterwards followed by a meal.

TALO · 03-05-2008, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sciggs

i usually work out between 5-7 PM. I drink milk with my protein shakes. I take creatine about an hour before i work out and protein afterwards followed by a meal.

You should take about 30-40g of protein and carbs before your workout and about 40-50g of protein and 60g of carbs after your workout. Then eat 1hr after your workout having atleast 50g of carbs and as much protein as you can stuff in your mouth.

The creatine can be taken with your pre workout drink ( 3g ) and again with your post drink ( another 3g )

MusTGeTBiG · 03-05-2008, 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TALO

You need to tone it down a bit. Also if your goal is to put on size then you need to take in more calories. I don't know how many your getting, but it's not enough.

Plus, you're over training. Arms do not need there own day and neither do shoulders. Focus on bench,deadlifts and squats.

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03-04-2008, 10:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
sciggs Rank: New Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 6	New to the forum, a few questions. Hi all this is my first post on the forum. I've been reading around a bit and it seems like a very informative sight. I've got a few questions that maybe y'all could give me some insight about. I'm 5' 11" tall and weigh about 150 lbs. I've been working out for about a month now with the following routine: Monday Bench Press Incline Press Decline Press Overhead Dumbbell Pull Dumbbell Flys Cable Crossovers Tuesdays Barbell Curls Dumbbell Hammer Curls Bent Bar Curls Alt. Dumbbell Curls Preacher Curls Concentration Curls Wednesdays Straightbar Pressdowns Skull Crushers Overhead Dumbbell Extensions Rope Pressdown Reverse Grip Pressdown Dips Thursday Squats Leg Press Roman Deadlifts Leg Extensions Leg Curls Calf Raises Friday Military Press Dumbbell Front Raises Lat Pulldowns Cable Rows Shrugs Also everyday i do abs and swim or run. My goal is really more for tone. I have a skinny build so i figure that getting "cut" should be easier for me since i may have less fat to burn. I am taking a CellTech creatine and NitroTech protein supplements. I take a scoop of protein when i wake up in the morning and after i work out. I take a scoop of creatine about an hour before i work out. I am just curious if i am taking the right steps with my supplements and workout routine to get "cut" and also gain some mass. Any insight/criticism would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Sciggs
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03-04-2008, 10:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
Darkhorse Moderator Rank: Light Heavyweight Experience: 7-10 Years Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: CA Posts: 4,003 Country: Gender:	Forget about gaining mass. You're doing a lot of volume, five days a week in addition to running and swimming every day. You're only 150, so with everything that you're doing you're likely burning A LOT of calories per day since your metabolism is probably like a furnace. What are your daily protein, carb, and fat totals? Do you know? :(
	Darkhorse's Sig:"The greater the development and strength of the main muscular structures of the body, the greater the size and strength potential of the small areas of the body." - Stuart McRobert Orange County Strength Club

03-04-2008, 10:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
TALO Rank: Lightweight Experience: 5-7 Years Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Alberta , Canada Posts: 1,915 Country: Gender:	You need to tone it down a bit. Also if your goal is to put on size then you need to take in more calories. I don't know how many your getting, but it's not enough. Plus, you're over training. Arms do not need there own day and neither do shoulders. Focus on bench,deadlifts and squats.
	TALO's Sig:"But when do you actually grow? Well, we don't grow in the gym. In the gym, we destroy. We tear down the body. We only grow when we are recovering. That's right, I said recovery. I see it all the time--people beating themselves up in the gym and not seeing results. They don't understand that hitting the weights hard is only a small part of growing or even cutting down. I could train the same all year round and get big or get ripped just by eating different and taking different supplements"

03-04-2008, 11:13 PM	#6 (permalink)
sciggs Rank: New Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 6	8:00 AM - Protein Shake 10:00 AM- Usually a bagel between classes 12:00 PM - Some type of sandwich 4:00 PM - Some type of small snack (cereal, sandwich, crackers) 6:00 PM Protein Shake 7:00 PM Dinner (mostly beef or chicken) 11:00 PM Cereal I realize that these probably need to change. These arent exact but they represent a pretty good example of my average day.
sciggs Rank: New Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 6

03-04-2008, 11:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
TALO Rank: Lightweight Experience: 5-7 Years Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Alberta , Canada Posts: 1,915 Country: Gender:	Just off the top of my head I think your lucky if your getting 1600 cals that's thinking your drinking milk with your shake's. You will not put on size unless you eat You need more Food...Protein is a must, Carbs - since you want to gain weight, and healthy fats. ie: Breakfast - 2 eggs with 6 egg whites - two pieces of whole wheat toast with peanut butter - 1 cup milk That alone would be over 700 cals Yours is about 100 maybe 200. BTW a protein shake is not very good to take alone unless you put in some olive oil. What time do you workout ? What do you take for your pre and post ?
	TALO's Sig:"But when do you actually grow? Well, we don't grow in the gym. In the gym, we destroy. We tear down the body. We only grow when we are recovering. That's right, I said recovery. I see it all the time--people beating themselves up in the gym and not seeing results. They don't understand that hitting the weights hard is only a small part of growing or even cutting down. I could train the same all year round and get big or get ripped just by eating different and taking different supplements"

03-05-2008, 12:06 AM	#8 (permalink)
sciggs Rank: New Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 6	i usually work out between 5-7 PM. I drink milk with my protein shakes. I take creatine about an hour before i work out and protein afterwards followed by a meal.
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