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Old 12-11-2006, 01:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi, I am a new guy and amazed by the amount of knowledge on these forums..Looking for some help,,I started lifting seriously like 4 weeks ago,mon> chest shoulders,,tue,,back abs,,wed legs,,repeat twice rest one day,,30 minutes of power lifting like max ot routine,,(my own half ass routine),,4-6 reps,,after lifting, 2 miles running and I have progressively ran more,,up to 4 miles now,,,I am currently 200 lbs,,about 20-25% BF,,I am trying to achieve 195-200 solid muscle,,very low body fat,,I have lost like 4 lbs since starting but my physique has improved greatly,,The more I research, I find conflicting opinions on the appropiate times for cardio, frequency, and duration...Basicly I'm trying to build mucsle while burning a large amount of fat off,,quickly,,,am I making a rookie mistake and forcing my body into catobolism?,,I eat good and take whey (140 grams to 160grams) and creatine,,20 grams of protein 45 minutes before lifting and 40 grams of protein and 1 serving of creatine after lifting and running. Any info is greatly appreciated.
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Old 12-11-2006, 01:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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PS..still reading stickys and threads,,hopefully my questions are not wasting space.
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Old 12-11-2006, 01:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I don't think it matters when you do cardio, just as long as you do it. Personally I only do it 2* a week for about 30mins. (not counting the 5-10 min warmup every time I lift)

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Old 12-11-2006, 03:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I do limited cardio when I really wanna bulk because my metabolism is a bitch sometimes. I still say cardio should be included for cardiovascular health but it depends on your short-term goals.

If you're trying to cut rapidly, then I would suggest high protein, moderate carbs and reduced fat. Reason being is because you're trying to put on muscle and reduce fat (which is fuckin near impossible btw), and you need protein and carbs for muscle growth. If you shoot your cardio through the roof then your muscle will suffer without adequate adjustments in your diet.

I would look at HIIT training articles (don't know if there is a sticky) and the "How to Cut" and "How to Bulk" Stickies

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Old 12-11-2006, 04:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks for the info !!!! I think for now now I'm going to cut down to 1 mile a day after lifting and just keep trying to beat my last time, also maintain my calorie intake for 200lbs..maybe a little less to cut out fat,,.One more problem I have,,,4 days a week I work on a shipping dock,,so for 9 hrs a day I am constanly moving lifting, freight anywhere from 1lb to 160lb constantly...How do you guys think this will affect muscle development because of little rest periods for muscle groups?,,I lift and run in morning 10am to 11am,and work,,3pm to 2am,,about 6-7 hrs sleep at night
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It all depends if your muscles are fatigued from work and affect your workout. If your fatigued going into the workout then you're intensity will be way down. If you can recover from working with a good nights sleep, I don't see how it would affect your muscles negatively. Plus if your lifting alot of weight in the gym compared to the freight, it shouldnt affect you.

If anything I would say it might actually help muscle growth.

I really wouldnt worry about it much, unless you're gonna quit your job in the pursuit of lean muscle

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