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Old 05-30-2006, 10:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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About two years ago I was getting pretty strong on my behind the neck
presses. I am not saying I was in the Pro league but okay for a home town lifter. I was doing 6 reps with 315. But, I got so obsessed with getting stronger and breaking the 315 barrier that my reps started to drop. I then started getting some odd painful feelings in my rear delts and deep in the shoulder joint itself. I had just turned 40 and tried pre-exhausting the movement with dumbell laterals. But eventually I had to completely layoff working any kind of pressing movements. I was headed down depression lane quick. When I came back I decided to competely get rid of behind the neck presses and go to military presses. I am glad I did this because I have never had a problem since and I am now 42. I whole-heartely recommend that a majority of the lifters give up the behind the neck presses and use military presses. I wish I would have dome this ten years ago. What is everyones' opinion on behind the neck presses?
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Old 05-30-2006, 11:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I would never really try behind the neck presses, because I've heard several times how stressful it could be on the shoulder joint.
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I think you're right on the money. They can also cause cervical problems. Probably ok to do them sometimes but they certainly shouldn't be a staple. But the thing is most people aren't going to listen. They'll say "I've been doing them for "years" and never had a problem." Trainees just don't seem to realize that these kind of things are cumulative much of the time. The idea is not that you're necessarily going to hurt yourself now (which you could) but years down the road you end up with a chronic problem; one that you may never fully recover from.

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I like them in moderation. I never pre-exhaust them anymore because I need my delts fresh for something like that. Behind the necks are dangerous..But so is the flat bench press if you think about it. Flat bench ended more careers than any other exercise! So it's a matter of risk vs. reward. My chest is fast becoming my best bodypart again (since the tear) and I do no flat bench whatsoever. Same with shoulder presses..A while back I switched out behind the necks for standing military presses and my delts haven't skipped a beat. So I think it's mostly just a head game. For now, the only btn pressing I do is in the smythe machine since I'm rest/pausing..

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I agree that avoiding behind the neck presses is a good idea. It places way too much stress on the rotator cuff and shoulder joint in general as well as stressing the cervical spine. You can get the same benefits of the exercise without doing behind the neck presses. Overall, it is definitely not worth the risk.

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