This 5x5 idea

[Outlawmurray]

I like the thought of it, but wondered if you could do it slightly differently.
I was thinking, do one session of 5x5 for each body part for bulk and then another session for cut. For example:

Chest.

5x5

Bench Press
Incline Bench
Decline Bench
Flys

Cut

Dumbell Press
Cable Cross Overs
Dips
Cable Pull Forwards (can't remember the right name off-hand!)

Just an idea, what does everyone think, am i an idiot, or a genius (I'm going for the first one!)

[ChinPieceDave667]

your not an idiot. I've done 5x5 for cutting and it helps in maintaining strength.
just remember what makes a cut session is diet and cardio.

[Outlawmurray]

Cardio!?!!? Surely not, its a dirty word, and by dirty i mean its too much effort, because i hate doing it. The only cardio i get is when i play football, or soccer to you American's once/twice a week. And i was under the impression that the 5x5 was for bulk?

[hrdgain81]

IMO 5x5 is great for both building strength, and keeping it durring a cutting cycle.

However, when you cut, you dont want to focus on isolation movements, you want to use the 5x5 with compounds. Then add in your cardio and a good cutting diet and your set.

[ChinPieceDave667]

well said.

[Outlawmurray]

At the risk of sounding stupid, isolation and compound movements are? And the big problem i have dietry wise is that i'm such a fussy eater, a lot of my diet is made up of crap, and if i didn't eat it i'd waste away.

[ChinPieceDave667]

Originally Posted by Outlawmurray

And the big problem i have dietry wise is that i'm such a fussy eater, a lot of my diet is made up of crap, and if i didn't eat it i'd waste away.

that's bad. 75-85% of bodybuilding/ lifting is diet. you won't cut or gain good muscle if your diet is crap. you will have to do research to find things you can fit into your diet so you can gain good muscle and get cut when needed. AKA, don't be a fussy eater. sorry to bursts your bobble :o

[hrdgain81]

Compound movements work multiple muscle groups at the same time. examples would be dead lifts, squats, bench press, pull ups. isolations, isolate specific muscles and are usually done with much lighter weights, examples would be preacher bench, flys, leg extensions.

as for the diet, all I can say is if you really want to improve in the gym, your gonna have to suck it up and eat correctly. There isnt much more to it.

[Outlawmurray]

Thats what i'm gonna try and do in the new year, get all the Xmas eating, and more importantly drinking out of the way and start fresh with the diet side of things, and time for a new routine in the gym i feel.

[Darkhorse]

Hmm, check out Needsize's 5x5 in the DFT 5x5 training sticky. I think it's on pg. 4 or 5. I think it would be too taxing if you wanted to do every exercise using 5x5 in one day (if I read you right). He has the main compound being 5x5, then 2 other exercises 2x8.