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04-06-2008, 11:01 AM
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| Moderator Rank: Heavyweight Experience: 7-10 Years Join Date: Jul 2005
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04-07-2008, 02:18 PM
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| Patsfan, I am a novice bodybuilder. I have followed the suggestions the other members have given me, and I have seen the best results in my life (for me, anyway). You should not listen too much to the people at the gym. A lot of things they say are rumors, hear-say, and sometimes, just made up. I used to think (a LONG time ago) that doing a 33 rep set (what I could do) with moderately heavy weights would make me stronger. I was such a fool. I have talked to a lot of entry-level pros, and alot of times, they just repeat the same, often useless strategies. Here, I have gotten nothing but great ideas, and inspiration. |
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04-08-2008, 03:50 AM
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| Rank: Lightweight Experience: 10+ Years  Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas
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04-11-2008, 06:55 AM
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 And a great workout involves using the Shift key to make capital letters. It's an often overlooked way of working the forearms. | |
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04-11-2008, 08:22 AM
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Ah well. No love lost here. You won't make it far in this lifestyle by keeping a rigid or closed mind. Especially when your mind is closed with the wrong information  Why pose a question if you already 'know' the answer? | |
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