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Darkvision · 05-02-2008, 11:00 AM

Yeah man, no rush. I'm googling some stuff as well.

So no BBQ sauce? awwww why =[

the yogurt isn't plain and it has ~20ish grams of sugar per serving. I'm pretty sure that's it, I don't have any in the fridge right now.

Bad?

And isn't cheese almost like whole milk which is good? Or is it bad fat that adds to my belly?

so.. MORE RED MEAT? BEEF

I'm reading all the nutrition stickies right now, as well as rippetoe's book. Gah so much to read today!

Ross86 · 05-02-2008, 11:53 AM

Maybe BBQ sauce isn't bad. I think it depends on what kind you use. Just check to see how much sugar is in it. The yogurt isn't so good because that's got a decent amount of sugar. Cheese....... That will depend on the type of cheese and how much you have. I was just pointing out every little thing I could think of. A lot of people prefer to take in their protein from red meat. Personally, I don't pay much attention to where my protein is coming from so long as it's from whole foods.

Pitysister · 05-02-2008, 01:33 PM

usually alot of bbq sauce has high fructose corn syrup in it...same shit that's in soda iirc.

TALO · 05-02-2008, 05:11 PM

Good advice Ross.

I would also cut out the whole milk ( no milk at all) Try and cut out all the bad fat and Bad Carbs that you can. There is good fat( fish Oils, EVO, nuts)and carbs( brown rice, yams, oats) you can add the evo to your protein shake.
Cut out the granola bars, waffles , syrup. Add in some egg whites go with 1 whole egg and 6 whites with a cup of oats for breakfast. You need to add in some GREENS. Spinach is very good, lettuce, beans, peas and asparagus.

When do you workout ? What is your pre and post nutrients look like.

Darkvision · 05-02-2008, 11:07 PM

I workout usually around 2:45pm tues and thurs. sat and sun = ~11am.

EVO? what's that?

red meat protein, this is what.. hamburger meat, steak.. that's all I can think of. is chicken good?

TALO · 05-02-2008, 11:51 PM

EVO - extra virgin olive oil (i guess it's EVOO)

Do you take pre / post workout shakes ? ( carbs / protein )

Yes, chicken is very good. Low fat High Protein.

Darkvision · 05-04-2008, 09:11 PM

pre and post workout shakes consist of the same thing. 1 scoop of whey + water. should that differ?

Ross86 · 05-05-2008, 02:14 AM

Pre & post workout nutrition

Darkvision · 05-05-2008, 03:10 PM

Before reading all the knowledge here, my dinner used to consist of orange chicken and mashpotatoes LOL... God I'm glad I found you guys.

Another question I had, since 5x5 rippetoe is a STRENGTH and POWER program, and I'm looking for pure mass, what program should I go on? Am I making another newbie mistake here in looking for the right 'program' ? I'm not sure what mindset I should be having here but as far as I see it...

bottom line: rippetoe is for strength. I'm looking for mass. what now?

Ross86 · 05-05-2008, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkvision

Before reading all the knowledge here, my dinner used to consist of orange chicken and mashpotatoes LOL... God I'm glad I found you guys.

Another question I had, since 5x5 rippetoe is a STRENGTH and POWER program, and I'm looking for pure mass, what program should I go on? Am I making another newbie mistake here in looking for the right 'program' ? I'm not sure what mindset I should be having here but as far as I see it...

bottom line: rippetoe is for strength. I'm looking for mass. what now?

Strength = mass, especially when you're starting out. If you are getting stronger, then you are getting bigger. SS will be a good program for you. Ask again in a few years and you might get a different answer.

05-02-2008, 11:53 AM	#22 (permalink)
Ross86 Rank: Bantamweight Experience: > 1 Year Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 933 Country: Gender:	Maybe BBQ sauce isn't bad. I think it depends on what kind you use. Just check to see how much sugar is in it. The yogurt isn't so good because that's got a decent amount of sugar. Cheese....... That will depend on the type of cheese and how much you have. I was just pointing out every little thing I could think of. A lot of people prefer to take in their protein from red meat. Personally, I don't pay much attention to where my protein is coming from so long as it's from whole foods.
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05-02-2008, 01:33 PM	#23 (permalink)
Pitysister Rank: Bantamweight Experience: > 1 Year Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Midwest Posts: 891 Country: Gender:	usually alot of bbq sauce has high fructose corn syrup in it...same shit that's in soda iirc.
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05-02-2008, 05:11 PM	#24 (permalink)
TALO Rank: Lightweight Experience: 10+ Years Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,505 Country: Gender:	Good advice Ross. I would also cut out the whole milk ( no milk at all) Try and cut out all the bad fat and Bad Carbs that you can. There is good fat( fish Oils, EVO, nuts)and carbs( brown rice, yams, oats) you can add the evo to your protein shake. Cut out the granola bars, waffles , syrup. Add in some egg whites go with 1 whole egg and 6 whites with a cup of oats for breakfast. You need to add in some GREENS. Spinach is very good, lettuce, beans, peas and asparagus. When do you workout ? What is your pre and post nutrients look like.
	TALO's Sig:"But when do you actually grow? Well, we don't grow in the gym. In the gym, we destroy. We tear down the body. We only grow when we are recovering. That's right, I said recovery. I see it all the time--people beating themselves up in the gym and not seeing results. They don't understand that hitting the weights hard is only a small part of growing or even cutting down. I could train the same all year round and get big or get ripped just by eating different and taking different supplements"

05-02-2008, 11:51 PM	#26 (permalink)
TALO Rank: Lightweight Experience: 10+ Years Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,505 Country: Gender:	EVO - extra virgin olive oil (i guess it's EVOO) Do you take pre / post workout shakes ? ( carbs / protein ) Yes, chicken is very good. Low fat High Protein.
	TALO's Sig:"But when do you actually grow? Well, we don't grow in the gym. In the gym, we destroy. We tear down the body. We only grow when we are recovering. That's right, I said recovery. I see it all the time--people beating themselves up in the gym and not seeing results. They don't understand that hitting the weights hard is only a small part of growing or even cutting down. I could train the same all year round and get big or get ripped just by eating different and taking different supplements"

05-05-2008, 02:14 AM	#28 (permalink)
Ross86 Rank: Bantamweight Experience: > 1 Year Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 933 Country: Gender:	Pre & post workout nutrition
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05-02-2008, 11:00 AM	#21 (permalink)
Darkvision Rank: Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 56	Yeah man, no rush. I'm googling some stuff as well. So no BBQ sauce? awwww why =[ the yogurt isn't plain and it has ~20ish grams of sugar per serving. I'm pretty sure that's it, I don't have any in the fridge right now. Bad? And isn't cheese almost like whole milk which is good? Or is it bad fat that adds to my belly? so.. MORE RED MEAT? BEEF I'm reading all the nutrition stickies right now, as well as rippetoe's book. Gah so much to read today!

05-02-2008, 11:07 PM	#25 (permalink)
Darkvision Rank: Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 56	I workout usually around 2:45pm tues and thurs. sat and sun = ~11am. EVO? what's that? red meat protein, this is what.. hamburger meat, steak.. that's all I can think of. is chicken good?

05-04-2008, 09:11 PM	#27 (permalink)
Darkvision Rank: Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 56	pre and post workout shakes consist of the same thing. 1 scoop of whey + water. should that differ?

05-05-2008, 03:10 PM	#29 (permalink)
Darkvision Rank: Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 56	Before reading all the knowledge here, my dinner used to consist of orange chicken and mashpotatoes LOL... God I'm glad I found you guys. Another question I had, since 5x5 rippetoe is a STRENGTH and POWER program, and I'm looking for pure mass, what program should I go on? Am I making another newbie mistake here in looking for the right 'program' ? I'm not sure what mindset I should be having here but as far as I see it... bottom line: rippetoe is for strength. I'm looking for mass. what now?

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