unsatisfactory after 1.5 year of training, pics

[gsxrclub80]

I'm just saying what worked for me. I lifted for 5-6 months working each muscle doing 3-4 sets of 8-10 reps eating good with VERY little gain. Granted I was still sore but results weren't there. I guess wolf is saying arnold has no idea what he's talking about? hah...ok.....I mean i guess he wasn't mr. universe or anything like that....and let me add - failure routines require a good spotter or like wid says could be disaster.

[gsxrclub80]

Oh and p.s. Not everyone's body reacts the same way. What you ppl are telling him might not work for him. I've had massive people tell me that dead lifts are the best work out for arms meanwhile it never did shit for me. Everyone is different. Routine will effect everyone differently. I was just suggestions that he might want to try some failure exercises if he's not getting any gains.

[Cradler]

"I guess wolf is saying arnold has no idea what he's talking about? hah...ok.....I mean i guess he wasn't mr. universe or anything like that"
AND
"Not everyone's body reacts the same way. What you ppl are telling him might not work for him."

For a guy without a valid point you're awfully antagonistic. More people get big in spite of their training knowledge than because of it - that's almost a direct quote from the 'why aren't you growing' sticky that Darkvision didn't read. Arnold doesn't have to know a damn thing about lifting if he's got the best genetics in the world. And if you really did the routine you said you did, and got very little gains, then the problem more likely lies with you or with the specifics of your program than with the concept.

[_Wolf_]

LOL....arnold was a revolutionary in bringing bodybuilding mainstream. but it ends with that. he had amazing genetics which helped him grow so well and with the added supplements and roids he was taking he could've just sat and wanked off all day and still gotten big.

you lifted for 5-6 months doing 3x10?? lol...why does there need to be such an extreme stand? why can't we all agree that 3x10 works for some things (note: things does NOT mean people...things means exercises, short periods of time, etc...everything goal related), 5x5 works for others and 3x3 does the same as does to failure training. nothing exists in a vacuum or in absolution.

[Eric3237]

Dark, the reason I chose to delete my posts and not respond any longer, as if it isn't already painfully obvious, has nothing to do with what program you are doing. It has to do with the fact that you keep reversing everything and have us running in circles.

I do not appreciate being told what I want to hear so that I can go on posting in the same vein looking like a fool so that somebody can just go right back to the beginning as if they never agreed with anything. You claimed an attitude reversal and then came right back with the same crap. This whole thread is nothing more than a way for you to get attention...so you respond in order to keep it going, not to actually learn anything. You also implied that you would read and understand the programs...another lie.

You've already got people coming on and repeating the same things again. I suggest the old-timers stop wasting their time. As for the day late and dollar short peanut gallery....Mr. Universe Anyone has NOTHING to do with you. Like Cradler said.

The frustration is no different than the frustration I experience with my 6 year old. So you can guess my reaction to your "stop acting like kids" statement.

Anyone who thinks that Rippetoe's is "too easy" could not have done program as written. If done the way Rip intended it then it is the most challenging thing you are likely ever to do. Not right off the bat from day one, but once you get going well. Rippetoe's could never be too easy for anyone. I thought we had ironed out that it is about progression and not how tired you are after a workout. This is my last post in this thread.

[Darkvision]

I don't even recall eric ever defining the correct attitude a novice bodybuilder should have...

Oh and I read the why aren't you growing sticky... 5 times.

[stalion]

stick with it i think u need to tweek your diet
one thing i saw while skimming threw you need more carbs prework out thats the reson u cant lift jack no carbs no fuel dude

[Darkvision]

simple or complex carbs?

that could be it too man!

so should I restart rippetoe's for the 3rd time and hope to see gains?

[iron_worker]

Simple carbs will generally give you a quick energy burst and then be gone sooner. The complex carbs are a more "slow burn" I believe. I would stick with complex carbs. They are generally accepted as healthier.

What are your lifts at right now?

I would say start the SS program by the book along with a journal which describes in detail what weights and progressions you're using for everything as well as specifics of diet. Don't feel you need to stick to the program exactly as written for ever. It will eventually become much to aggressive to continue at that rate.

Videos of your main lifts might help as well. Maybe you have a crucial form flaw that you're not seeing? I see 85% of the people at my gym doing 1/2 squats and deadlifts with a half-moon back. I'm not saying your lifts are wrong but its something to look into. You definately have to learn the movements while doing light weights before moving up to where you're maxing your body out.

I'll say it again, start light. Set your ego aside at the gym door. Do a weight that you know you can complete today and for many more days. You want to teach your body how to lift while slowly loading on more weight over each day/week. I think starting very light and moving up gets your body "accelerating" through the weights and teaches it how to grow and adapt to the weight progressions.

Well thats what I would do. Document everything and I'm sure people here will try to help you out.

Oh yeah, always be polite and courteous. This isn't just directed at you but a general comment. Sometimes things get heated but keep your cool and say your opppinion in good proper english without bashing anyone.

Finally, always remember that there are guys on this site that have pretty much boundless knowledge. If you're nice to them, they'll help you out any way you can.

IronWorker

[_Wolf_]

Originally Posted by Darkvision

I don't even recall eric ever defining the correct attitude a novice bodybuilder should have...

Oh and I read the why aren't you growing sticky... 5 times.

then you need to stop focusing on training and concentrate a bit more on your understanding and substance grasping skills.