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Old 06-28-2008, 12:00 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Just because they are massive and pro's doesn't mean they know dick quite frankly. They have personal trainers, doctors, nutritionists, ect (ie. an entire team) that'll get the absolute MOST out of their GENETICS. So when they have a "one on one" in the latest Flex issue, and the 180 lb writer asks them what brings out the "upper chest", of course they're going to say, "Um, inclined anything". Or if they want to make a name for themselves, they could say something completely stupid like, "My 'secret' is to do 4 sets of incline DB presses on every click up of the incline bench until I'm almost 90 degrees in order to get that very tiny hard to reach top strand sitting just under the clavicle." Sound stupid, right? Tell that to all the other 15 year olds that read that shit like it's gospel... Ahem.
One more thing, most of the time the PROs dont even write up their training program. From what I have read it is often the case where writers just buy right to use the name and make up whatever the hell they want.

I have seen 20 different "Arnold Secret to Huge Pecs".

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Old 06-28-2008, 12:17 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Yeah...

This blog post by Bryan Chung I think is absolutely relavant here. It is really the same kind of thing. Elite gymnasts are buff so the way to get buff is bodyweight training or "crossfit" style training. Or elite sprinters are muscular compared to skinny long distance runners so....

While there is a kernel of truth that certain ways of training are good as compared to others what we don't realize is that the sample size is SO SO small....He calls it the "sport causality bias", or "elite athlete selection bias".


Well, he explains it better than I could:

http://evidencebasedfitness.blogspot...rch?q=gymnasts

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Old 06-28-2008, 07:47 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Yeah...

This blog post by Bryan Chung I think is absolutely relavant here. It is really the same kind of thing. Elite gymnasts are buff so the way to get buff is bodyweight training or "crossfit" style training. Or elite sprinters are muscular compared to skinny long distance runners so....

While there is a kernel of truth that certain ways of training are good as compared to others what we don't realize is that the sample size is SO SO small....He calls it the "sport causality bias", or "elite athlete selection bias".


Well, he explains it better than I could:

http://evidencebasedfitness.blogspot...rch?q=gymnasts


Good read, thanks

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With the exception of Australia, and China (and perhaps a few other countries), talent-identification programs do not exist on a wide-scale level to identify children who might be promising sprinters/runners/gymastics/lifters/football players/etc

Anyone know of any talent-identification programs that could be done on our own ? I think it would be interesting to check out.

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Anyone know of any talent-identification programs that could be done on our own ? I think it would be interesting to check out.
Hmm, I just look in the mirror..


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Pretty ****ing big is my guess. Without any "rear delt work".

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Old 06-30-2008, 06:10 AM   #66 (permalink)
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You did this when you were what , 5 ?

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You did this when you were what , 5 ?
That cuts deep, man..

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oh come on now. I forgot to

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That cuts deep, man..
Ouch....

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