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Old 03-18-2007, 06:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default WIll this be to much, overtraining?

working out the same muscle every other day?
Same routine same lifts every other day?
mond/wens/fri: = chest/arms ; 7+ mile jog
tues/thurs/sat: = back/legs ; 7+ mile jog
sunday= rest muscles ; 7+ mile jog
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Old 03-18-2007, 06:49 AM   #2 (permalink)
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You're not giving yourself any chance to recover your muscles. Even your rest day has the look of an oxymoron (contradictions in terms) -> Rest day means resting, not a 7 mile jog.

What exactly are you trying to accomplish?

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Old 03-18-2007, 04:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I am trying to get definition and lose some weight.
I have whey Protein which I take right before and right after a workout. I sometimes take it before bed depending on how much protein my dinner had. I have Glutamine also but heard it stunts strength gain so I stopped taking that a few weeks ago. I just started taking N02 today.
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Old 03-18-2007, 04:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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So I should give two days between working out the same muscles?
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Old 03-20-2007, 03:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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glutamine stunts strength gains...thats a new one to me - who told you that?

The whole point of glutamine is so your muscles dont break down. Read up more here:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/glutamine.html
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Old 03-20-2007, 06:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I thought I read it in one of your stickies, I guess I was wrong. I'll start taking it again.
I take it right after workout and before bed right?
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Old 03-20-2007, 07:41 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Glutamine helps with recovery....I haven't read the stickies about it but I highly doubt that added recovery would hinder strength gains


And yet again...another post about overtraining with only the split being posted...Posting a split means absolutely nothing to me...Exercises (for that specific day), Sets, and Reps are needed to evaluate your routine. I still don't understand why people don't realize this

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Bro....
you are over training big time.

The main thing to remember is that your recovery time is, if not more, as important as training.

If you are trying to get definition and lose some weight.....
have you thought about a whole body workout routine with minimum rest between sets and reps?

Also, there is no problem with jogging on your rest days....you are not trying to bulk.

I'm not quite sure what they mean with glutamine and "muscles dont break down".

If this was the case, then I wouldnt use glutamine. After all, you want your muscles to break down so the can rebuild and become stronger and bigger.

This is called Microtrauma, which is tiny damage to the fibers, is seen as the basis for hypertrophy (an increase in muscle size, due to the enlargement of the size of the cells). When microtrauma occurs (from weight training or other strenuous activities), the body responds by overcompensating, replacing the damaged tissue and adding more, so that the risk of repeat damage is reduced. Thus, muscle growth and strength is achieved.

Another key factor to consider when trying to cut is protein. Its as important as when you are bulking.

After all, you dont want any Catabolism of your muscles
I think this is what was meant with glutamine.
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Old 03-21-2007, 09:13 AM   #9 (permalink)
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There doesn't seem to be much evidence that glutamine helps in terms of muscle or strength gains. It certainly doesn't hurt. It is good for the GI tract which to me is a consideration. But I wouldn't look for it to improve recovery over a protein/carb around your workout.

That much jogging while cutting and your likely to end up looking like the before pictures of the old Charles Atlas ads.

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Old 03-21-2007, 09:42 AM   #10 (permalink)
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There are a lot of pieces missing from this puzzle, but just at first glance:

With that kind of cardio, your gonna end up muscle wasting. I dont care what your taking, your running like your training for a marathon, so expect to look like a marathon runner at the end ...

And yes there is nothing wrong with cardio on rest days, I'd suggest something more along the lines of alternating HIIT, and your long runs. IMO its better to look like a sprinter then a marathon runner.

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