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Old 01-11-2006, 01:09 PM   #11
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Sounds familiar. We're not the only ones. It's pretty common.

I did the DC method for a while after 0311 initially suggested them and I did get a spurt of growth. That plateaued after a while (I'm just that way I guess) but I still employ it among other things.

Sounds like a plan. Let us know what happens.
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Old 01-11-2006, 01:18 PM   #12
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I do only 2 sets of seated calves. Only work with toes out. Do them real slow go heavy 3-5 reps. Ihave 19" calves. Watch u don't overstretch. Plantar fascitis could be a liftime partner and it sure can cripple your workouts. Also I only do calves twice in 9 days. I used to train like u and couldn't get passed 16" calves . Maybe your body is slow twitch .I train everything twice in 9 days. When I started this routine years ago I was stuck 161/2 arms. In 6 months calves and armes went to 19. arms to 191/4. I have never gonew on the juice. When I was younger just ate,no supplements. 3-5 reps ,2 sets go heavy every workout for about 4 weeks then cycle to about a week of 1 set 35 reps. u can do 2 weeks of high reps. Another thing 15 min. high intensity aerobics hepls the mind to deal with the negatives if this high intensity stuff. hope this helps.
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Every single muscle group in the body is a mixture of fiber types. The fiber type that predominates depends on the function of the muscle. The ratios can vary somewhat among individuals but not to a large degree. If they did then your body simply wouldn't work properly.

Slow twitch fibers need a high rep range to be stimulated fully. They are the endurance fibers. Seated calf raises primarily work the soleus which is predominately slow twitch. Reps in the 3 to 5 range would bypass the slow twitch muscles completely and only work the 10% or so of fast twitch fibers. Leaving out a whole lot of potential growth. Going slow will help but there is a threshold and once you reach that in weight the fast fibers come into play regardless of the speed of the movement.

By the same token, 1 set of 35 reps would only recruit the slow twitch fibers not induce any growth, IMO.

And that is not even getting in to the fact that seated calf raises don't work the gastrocs very well at all. The leg needs to be straight to fully employ and contract them.

I know there is an idea that you can get fast twitch fibers to behave a little more like slow twitch fibers. I.E. increase their endurance. But you are not gonna get slow twitch fibers to act like fast ones.

I'm simply amazed that that prescription worked for you, larryjoe. If I trained my calves with those parameters and that frequency I'd have sticks.
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Just make sure to pause at the bottom for a count of three or for to eliminate the aforementioned stretch reflex. I promise your weight and rep range will not be the same if you are not doing this already.

There is a reason you high school kids doing 350 lbs for 20 reps at a time: the bounce it.

I saw decent growth with kinda what 0311 said. Fast concentric. Then I hold for a count of three. Slow (though not 4 seconds) downwards. Wait at the bottom for a count of three to four.

Once I switched to these, I've found my calves are worked much better.

I do them twice a week: standing once and seated once, therefore gastro's once and soleus once

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