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i am trying to change my split from 1 bodypart a dat to a 4 day split and i am a bit confused about the chest tri thing? allot of the splits i have seen on the net have these 2 together but wouldnt the tries be crapped out after a chest workout? any sugestions on a good 4 day split ? i see allot og routines in mags but i realize they are for advanced and very juiced bodybuilders were recovery time and such are not the same as a natural guy

That's the whole point. They probably won't be crapped out but they'll certainly be hit. That's a good thing. Presses of any kind work the tri's good and hard with heavy weight. A few isolations to finish them off and you're good to go.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.

4 day workout:

1: upper
2: lower
3: off
4: upper
5: lower
6,7: off

Everyting gets hit twice, with at least three days rest.

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Never had a problem doing tries after chest.
Actually chest is not a very large muscle and you shouldn't be so wiped out unlike doing back or legs.

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Lean And Large Program

Workout 1 Sets & Reps
Incline Bench Press 2 Sets Of 6
2 Sets Of 12
Dumbell Bench Press 2 Sets Of 6
2sets Of12
Incline Fly 4 Sets Of 12

Tricepsclose-grip Bb 2 Sets Of 6
2 Sets Of 12
Superset Bb Curl & Tircep Ext. 4 Sets Of 12
Rope Pull Down 3 Sets Of12

Workout 2
Squat 2 Sets Of 6
2 Sets Of 12
Legpress 2 Sets Of 6
2 Sets Of 12
Leg Extension 4 Sets Of 12
Leg Curl 4 Sets Of 12
Standing Calf Raise 4 Sets Of 12
Seated Calf Raise 4 Sets Of 12

Workout 3
Barbell Shoulder Press 2 Sets Of 6
2 Sets Of 12
Seated Dumbell Press 2 Sets Of 6
2 Sets Of 12
Lateral Raise 4 Sets Of 12

Barbell Shrug 2 Sets Of 6
2 Sets Of 12
Dumbell Shrug 2 Sets Of 6
2 Sets Of 12

Workout 4
Deadlift 4 Sets Of 6
Barbell Row 2 Stes Of 6
2 Sets Of 12
Lat Pulldown 2 Sets Of 6
2 Sets Of 12
Straight-arm Pulldown 4 Sets Of 12

Barbell Curl 2 Sets Of 6
2 Sets Of 12
Seated Incline Dumbbell Curl 2 Sets Of 6
2 Sets Of 12
Hammer Curl 2 Sets Of 6
2 Sets Of 12

Wrist Curl 2 Sets Of 12
Reverse Wrist Curl 2 Sets Of 12