DB Lateral and BB Front Raise?
 

Do those two exercises work out the same exact muscles or different parts? Also, when you do DB Laterals do you do both arms at the same time or one at a time?

Your hitting your lateral medial delts w/ lateral raises......The degree to which your actually working one more than the other depends on your angle at which your moving and well, your form period! The front raises OTOH, targets your front delts as long as your form is proper. lots of people SS fronts w/ laterals. Or seperate them ifyour lifting heavy.

yup, sngle_chck hit it. as far as doing the exercises, you can do either both arms at the same time, or one at a time. try them both. I usually do mine both arms at once, and single arm once I start to tire, ot I am concentrating.
Also try doing the raises while lying on a 45 degree or so angle. lie facing the bench. I used to do those a lot after my shoulder surgery.

Here's my routine for my shoulders..

ShoulderPress 3 sets 10/8/6 (adding weight)
UprightRows 3 sets 10/8/6 (adding wieght)
DB Lateral Raise 3 sets 10/8/6 (adding weight)
BB Rear Delt Row 3 sets 10/8/6 (adding weight)

I was thinking about changing the BB Rear Delt Row to BB front Raise or maybe someone else has a better exercise to suggest? Keep in mind I only have a Bench Press set and DBs.

No they are two completly different movements.

In a word: No
But they both work the traps

I prefer to do dumbell one arm at a time mostly because it eleviates the pressure on my lower back. I also for a switch like to grab 1 heavy dumbell with both hands and raise that.

I use the shrug as the primary exedrcise for traps and then you can follow up with the uprights for the burn. They have never bothered my shoulders/rotator cuffs but i'm special.

U should try some front raises towards the end to get that burn.

I decided to ditch the Lateral raises and the BB rear delt row and changed my shoulder routine to....

Shoulder Press 3 sets - 10/8/6
Arnold DB Press 3 sets - 10/8/6
Shrugs 3 sets - 10/8/6
Upright Rows 3 sets - 10/8/6

That should be good.

Hey C-vac........
Seem to hung up on the numbers......

Try going for feel and concentration......Work on your mind body....

Give your self a "rep-range" to work in instead of a number.
Meaning.....If you are doing a Flat Barbell Bench @ 210 third set, go for 7-11 reps... If you blast out 12 @ failure, then increase your weight slightly for the last set.....WRITE THAT DOWN!! :)

If you put one specific # in your mind, you tend to "mentally" tire out before you could physically.

As far as the Delt routine, hard to say caus I don't know what your delt's look like. Me personally, i could skip delt's every other week, b/c of response delt's have to training. Weird for a girl!!!!! But, you def. sound like you need some detail work in your routine....like lateral raises and rear delt flys. Front raises are more fun than upright rows to......

I've never heard that upright rows are bad for the shoulders.

No one listens to Taurus anyway :D

Even a bucket full of chicken shit is smarter than you :D :p

OOOhh, I will be so scared the next time I do upright rows, because Taurus said they are really bad for everyones shoulders :p :p :p I do follow ur advise sometime, remember the rancid oil problem, I pour about three drops of 30% H2O2 like u said, not that it made any difference, but the taste didnt get any worse. OOh, I cant explain how much trouble I had to go through to steal that shit from my chem lab :D

I think upright rows are good for a negative type of burn after a set of barbell shrugs. Tempo should be down for 4-5 seconds, zero pause, up for 2. Going heavy isn't good.

Talk about going heavy, there is this show off mofo at my gym, he always does 250 or higher on up right rows, but hell he might be big, but sure his muscles look ugly. Fat fucker :D

Is he a powerlifter? Alot of powerlifters are pretty chubby due to the high calorie intake...about 7,000 to be exact. That makes one fat f*cker!

:D He is just a wanna be powerlifter who eats whoppers with triple mayo all day.

what is a diet like for a powerlifter...is it basically whatever u want with loads of protien carbs and fat or do any of them actually worry about diet?

depends on how close you are to the edige of your weight class

The days of powerlifters who look like fat bulls are somewhat starting to be over. I have started to notice that most of the new powerlifters are cut up mofo's.

Very very true. Just look at Worlds Strongest Man, in the past they used to look like they're having quadruplets, whereas now they are alot trimmer.

I used to make fun of them saying, they might be strong but I look better than them, but I cant say that shit no more :o

There was this guy named Mike (something) who represented USA who was absolutely swole. He died a few years back due to a bad heart. Don't know what could've caused that... :confused: :eek:

did u mean to say swolen?

No...I meant to say exactly what I said. In the weightlifting world, there is a word "swole". You learn something new every day.

ohhh thanks for clearing that up

You're very, very welcome :rolleyes: :D

may be all the roids he took.