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Old 05-19-2009, 08:20 AM
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Vagitarian is right about the stability. As you may know there are two groups in the chest, pec major and minor. Bar hits major, dbs hit minor. Hit both for max benefits.
I do believe you cant train one or the other, both dbells and bar would hit the chest as a whole, it is not possible to isolate different parts...
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Old 05-19-2009, 08:58 AM
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Ok I signed up because this thread is full of /facepalm responses.

Good job on switching over to dumbbells, they are MUCH better than using the bar. When you use a bar you are missing out on working the stability factor of your joints. So I ask you, what is strength without stability? Nothing.

I see this thread similar to: what's better Leg Press or Squats? Use dumbbells. That's the way to go.
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Vagitarian is right about the stability. As you may know there are two groups in the chest, pec major and minor. Bar hits major, dbs hit minor. Hit both for max benefits.
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Old 05-19-2009, 09:18 AM
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What's facepalm?

Another reason to use dumbells is that it gives the shoulders a break. Too much flat bar pressing (pressing of any kind) gets to be hell on the shoulders.

Dumbells allow a neutral grip (natural) instead of forcing you into internal rotation via the pronated grip. So it can be very helpful using dumbells just to give the shoulders a break, some variety, however you want to look at it.

I personally never do two flat bar presses in the same workout, similar to what pity said, just in deference to my shoulder health.

That does not mean it is "wrong" to do two flat bar presses in a workout. I just have this personal guideline to keep myself in line. But certainly I think everyone should consider swithching at least half of their flat bar presses over to a corresponding dumbell press.

I think Eric Cressey was soley responsible for getting me into that habit and it stuck a whole lot more that the whole "stability" thing. For me, a cost-to-benefit thing is much more useful than a vague sort of "trains stability" thing. Not that the stability part isn't very true it's just hard to ingrain a habit based on that when you can pile more weight on the barbell. Even for me it's frustrating to train based on effects that I hardly notice.

But shoulder health I CAN notice. Shoulders get tweaked so darn often.
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.
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What's facepalm?



1st facepalm was because DBs are not the end-all-be-all when it comes to pressing. They're great to use, I use them all the time, but thats not to say all bar pressing should be excluded or that DBs are superior to BBs.

2nd facepalm is for the whole pec minor and pec major.
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faceplam is usually a bb.com thing

db rows are superior because they hit the lower lats better.
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Old 05-19-2009, 07:41 PM
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Christ you need to take alternate English courses these days.
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Old 05-19-2009, 08:12 PM
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So true Pity...they do hit the lower lats better...(hahaha)

I like doing decline db presses, to hit the bottom of the pecs, they hit the entire pecs, really, just more on the minor. I also like to use them on B workout (alternate workout) I can feel my forearms being taxed more with dbs. Just my 2 coppers...
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