Get thee to the basement! (good read)
I took this off another post on a board that lifted it from elitefts. Good read:
I understand where he is coming from, so many people these days have such a sense of entitlement that they think they dont have to work hard to get what they want.
On the other side, i dont think its smart or safe to send a kid into a basement and tell him figure it out on your own. Thats setting the kid up to fail, or worse injure themselves.
If it was my kid, I would drag them to the gym with me to see what real dedication and intensity was all about. And if they weren't interested, then they wouldnt be joining me again. I know this is a different situation for him because he is a trainer, and you can only do so much to motivate other people's kids, and it gets frustrating. but you really cant want more for people then they want for themselves ... it just leaves you exhausted.
I don't think the sticking the kid in the basement was meant to be taken literally. But was meant to be not to give the kid a free ride.
gotcha, I have a very strong and dedicated friend who has an affinity for the phrase "no deposit, no return". I think that holds very true here.
Kids are kids. They are not all going to respond well to pressure tactics. You can't expect to treat them like adults and have them respond the way you like. Sounds like a lot of complaining about the kids when it is a coaches job to know how to motivate kids in general. They are not emotionally mature...they are not adults. And kids need to play and have fun. There are ways to get results when working with kids but the methods are not the same. If you can't do it...then shut up and don't train kids. Whining is whining.
It's true that kids these days are not active enough. That is for sure. But it's not about lifting weights. It's about getting off your ass and going out and participating in a wide variety of activities and play. If a kid wants to compete then fine...but don't expect a boot camp attitude to work all the time nor be safe or appropriate.
If all there was to being a trainer or coach was to rant and rave and bark out orders...there would be a lot more good coaches and trainers.
I started working and supporting myself at a young age as well. If fact when I was 14...way illegal. And if I could do it again...Id rather be off hanging with my friends rather than telling them I can't go cuz I have to work. I worked cuz I had too not cuz I was some "motivated" person. If I was training children I woudn't expect them to be a carbon copy of me as a child. It's not about me. It's about them. Most of that article really sounded like it was more about Evan-Esh than about those he trains.
good post Eric. when i read it i didnt know how to word my thoughts because i basically understood that if you want kids to co-operate, you must be able to make them want what you want from them.
all he was doing was grumbling and whining.
To me you have to look at it from a foundational perspective. If you want to train people and you think of them first and foremost as "trainees" or "athletes" you are not going to be as effective. They are people first then athletes. And with children they are kids, then people, then athletes.
I think Brijesh Patel said it best when he stated that you have to realize you coach people.
I rarely see anything constructive come out of "rants and raves".
It was a little too rant-ish for me as well but he did make some good points about dedication and hard work etc. I think everyone could use a good solid dedication to something...and its obviously not going to be strength training for everyone like he makes it sound.
I agree with that. It just doesn't matter what you are doing though, you are not going to inspire motivation and dedication in children, adolescents, or post-adolescents by taking out your mood on them. You'll just desenstitize them to everything you yell about. That won't really work well long-term for anyone, I don't think. It kinda of reminds me of all the TV shows where trainers are portrayed as a boot camp guy who barks out orders and abuses his clients. Makes for good TV but is far from general reality.
^^ yup, as i stated in my previous post, lead by example, and others will follow. I know thats how I learned, i went to the gym, saw some big strong dudes working with intensity and moving serious iron and thought to myself, thats how i want to be.
Being a fat kid didnt hurt my motivation either ...
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