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Old 04-04-2008, 06:22 PM   #21
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Oh, yeah. Good. You did understand what I meant. Sometimes people miss those points because I write too much. It's not the way I would design it for the actuall effects I would "expect" from things like that. That can be part of the problem too. You expectations can lead you to design things a certain way.

Without very much science at all if you look at week one and week two you can see that those are very different training stimulus that will cause very different training effects. Maybe competing training effects or complimentary depending on how you program it. If anything I would just think of the high rep week as a "light" week if it is programmed in a short weekly fashion like that. Because, IMO, about all you can really expect is some active rest from one week of doing that, if the week before is sufficiently heavy or different, which it is.

Anyway, I wanted to point out, so that Ross didn't think I was going off the deep end, that I have read about this "fiber saturation" concept before as it relates to the blood pump. The idea being that it does something to the type 1 fibers. But it doesn't really make a lot of sense and there is no way this can be backed up in an actual human, of course. But that is how it is related to the pump...the blood being forced in, etc..is supposedly causing some physical change in the fibers.

Even then you would need more than a week to see ANY sort of real and lasting training effect. So it depends on how you think of it. Short periodized which IMO sucks or a med, light, heavy type thing which is great if it makes sense for the individual. So that may effect your expectations or perceptions but in the end all that really matters is what happens.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.
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Old 04-04-2008, 06:59 PM   #22
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interesting stuffs...good question ross
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Old 04-04-2008, 07:08 PM   #23
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There is also the pump to stretch the fascia crowd. That is just another way of trying to tell people that light weights, high volume, and short rest periods will lead to massive growth based on some magical thing it does to fibers. You know it's really been your fascia holding you back all this time. I'm talking like 7 sets with 1 minute rest, lol. You WILL be pumped!
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Old 04-04-2008, 07:41 PM   #24
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Some info to help with what I've been saying:

Adaptations to Endurance Training

Little/no increase in CSA of all fiber types

Fiber type shift

Increase % of Type I and Type I/IIa hybrid fibers

Decrease % of Type IIx fibers (fast - days)

Decrease % of Type IIa fibers (slow years)

Increase in muscle oxidative capacity

Increase in mitochondrial density

Increase capillary to fiber ratio

No increase in glycolytic enzymes

Possible increase in very intense training

Increase in fatty acid oxidation, increase intramuscular lipid stores

These changes lead to a delay in the onset of metabolic acidosis, increased resistance to fatigue, increased VO2max


Adaptations to Resistance Training

Increase in muscle CSA (hypertrophy) in all fiber types including Type I (usually)

May be increase in fiber number, but size is most change

Increase in number of nuclei per fiber (maintain nuclear domain size)

Satellite cell proliferation

Increase in muscle power

Fiber type shift

Decrease in % Type I fibers

Increase in % Type IIa fibers

Decrease in % Type IIx fibers

Metabolic changes

Decreased mitochondrial density, but due to hypertrophy, not fewer mitochondria per fiber

No change in capillary:fiber ratio (but may be decrease in capillary density)

No change in VO2max

Fluck and Hoppeler, 2003
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Old 04-07-2008, 07:27 PM   #25
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Everyone likes feeling bigger, though personally I despise the obsession with "pump". I go into to move weight. Pump is a side effect.
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