Grip
 

I have come to realize that my grip sucks!!! So I picked up some grippers.

http://www.heavygrips.com/

Got them today and I can only squeeze the 100 and 150. I can almost get the 200, but almost dosen't count. I sure am hoping that by doing this and working up to the 350 (hopefully) that my deadlift forarms will grow.

Anyone ever use these ?

i have the hardest level drippers and the level 1 gripper. the level one is way to easy so i just use it in betweeen push ups or something. but something that i use to make my grip better is this
http://www6.mailordercentral.com/iro...sp?number=1254


it is really good for grip strenght. i wouldnt advise doign it the way i was, but i was using it in between sets of bench press, shoulder press, etc. it was getting my grip good really fast, but someone stole it so i was with out it for a while.

Grippers can help but don't rely on them exclusively. You have to match the training to the job. For deadlfits you need supporting strengh endurance. Endless reps on the grippers will only go so far. Static holds on the grippers will probably serve better.

But also look at plate pinch, dead hangs, barbell static holds, thick bar work and forearm work to round it out.

I would recommend the wrist roller, like Monsta, as something that has been more valuable for my grip than grippers.

I do ALL back work without straps. Tough at first, but it becomes very easy. Chalk is the easiest thing in the world to throw on, and IMO it's better than using straps. The only thing I use straps on now is high rep rack deads, but it's a lazy thing..

You want to improve grip, try a full workout, and you'll be amazed at what you can hold onto.

I've never used straps for back work "in general". Comes a time when you hit a wall and have to augment things. Course most people will reach some kind of upper limit someday.

If you've used straps a lot then you stop then that's all you'll need for a while. But this too shall pass :). If you've never used straps much, and the grip fails, there will have to be some intervention. Chalk is great.

I've never used straps and I intend not to until I absolutely have to. (Maybe for 1RM deads soon...) Mind you, I don't move weight like some of you do! Ha. In fact, I'm most definatly the smallest of the bunch in this thread. Just train as much as you can without straps or aids and things will get better I'm sure.

If your deads are over 300 pounds and you are still doing well with grip then you are dong very well. (LOL, that was a bad sentence).

Don't hold me to this of course, but I'd say most health young guys of average ability will start having probs somewhere from 200 to 250...depending on the volume of course, and closer to 250.

haha....dong very well.

BTW, I do want to warn people that if you dive into fullfledge grip training, something I used to do, beyond that of what is required to keep up you supporting strength for your pulling, it becomes a thing where the more types of things you do, the more other types of things you have to do. You got so many muscles and tendons at work that it's easy to get tendonitis and such if you don't keep thing's balanced.

I don't use straps either, but my deadlift is over 400lbs and I do need to strap up for that. So Eric,I guess my grip is ok , but it still feels week. I still think it would be nice to close those 350's

Your right 0311 chalk is very effective.

Well yeah, your grip probably doesn't suck but if you want to be able to pull the 400 without straps you'll have to work at it. The thing about the grippers though is not just meant to discount grippers.

It's easy for guys to tell you all sorts of fun stuff to do for grip who are not pulling heavy deads all the time also. So you get all sorts of enthusiastic grip mania about grippers and this and that. Grippers are cool and they help but if your goal is to be able to support your pulling weights and you overtrain your hands doing stuff that does not directly enough correlate to that then you'll just be using straps all the time and wondering when that magical day is coming when you don't need them.

I can pull 300 without straps(working on 400 plus). I meant that I want to close the 350 gripper. Holding on to a bar while dl and trying to squeeze something shut is different.

Something I have been lacking is forarm work.

Uhhh...I know what you were talking about with the 350 grippers. I actually had a typo and meant to write 400 instead of 300. I.E. if you want to be able to hold onto the deads you can do now.

Nope. Which means I guess I guess you see my point but I suppose I misunderstood your goals. You said you hoped it helped your deadlift forearms grow so I was going by that.

I thought you wanted to be able to hold your deads while growing your forearms. If you want to be able to close 350 more power to you I just misunderstood the intent of the question I guess. Just trying to help and say that while closing something is not the same as holding something, the fatigue and basic volumising of it is still cumulative, so you can overtrain your grip and then not be able to hold your deads. It's not the same but you still get tired from it. Yes, I have tried grippers. Not those same ones but very similar and this is the kind of thing I had to deal with when getting to excited with them. If you are doing any other grip work you might want to take it out at first and see how things go before adding stuff back in.

So you have to scedule and program it like anything else. I'm not saying it will happen but working up to the big grippers is a task in itself so if you are presently engaged in working up to holding on to the heavy deads it's just a warning is all. Just don't overdo it along with all the other stuff.

It's kind of the same thing as even though leg extensions do not help your squats all that much they still make your quads tired so if you want to squat big you don't want to do leg extensions all the time, unless, that is, having a record leg extension is more important to you :)

Good luck on it.

Ya, most of the time my wording is all fucked up!!!:biglaugh: sorry.

No, no I wrote a number that made it seem like I didn't know what you were referring to. This ain't always an easy form of communication :D

As long as we think we know what were talking about, then we're alright.:biglaugh:

Oh, I KNOW I know what I'm talking about. I'm talking about BEER and BOOBS.

THe only thing worth talking about...:biglaugh:

does chalk and straps help you hold on ot the weight? i never used them. i just thought chalk just kept the weight from killing your hands. i def have peeled mad skin off my hands from not using anything. if i smacked someone right now their face might bleed lol. my hands are horrible

If your hands sweat, then ya chalk will help hold the bar....Straps take most of the weight out of your hands. So you will be able to lift alot more than without.

oh aight cool. i seen people use them, but you know when you get used ot doign stuff a certain way you dont bother trying to add on to what works.

It's like some use bench suits. Never done it, but I guess it helps.

i have never seen a bench suit just yet. i seen a couple on youtube. they look funny and mad tight

They're supposed to be tight. I believe they originally started as a safety device for bench competitions so you don't get crushed under the weight but its kinda morphed over time into an aid so you can bench more. It takes the weight off at the bottom of the stroke so you really have to train for lockout. Or at least thats how I understand it. I've never used one but I'd be interested just to see how it feels one day.

IronWorker