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truest 09-20-2007 06:59 PM

help me it will be very much appreciated PLEASE
 
Ok to start off

I've been working out for about 6 months now.. @ first I had no ruitine... after about 2 months my boy told me to follow this

M- chest(in-decline and regular (all 3)/ triceps (3 sets of 10 on everything)
T- legs(lunge, squat)/ tricep
W- cardio 30 mins
T- shoulders/ biceps
F- back/ legs

No xplode before/ cell mass creatine during/ whey protein after

And eat healthy as possible and eat a lot.


Well for the next 2 months I did that and seen little results.

Btw I'm
6'2 and weigh 190
16 inch arms
I wouldn't say chicken legs but my legs are WEAK AS HELL and it sucks
I Have a little gut
everyone thinks I'm "big" even though I'm bigger than most my age I don't feel big

Before I started lifting I weighed about 180ish and am still in the 180 ish range and it sucks.. I don't get to eat all the time due to a busy schedule but I always find time to try to workout.


BOTTOM LINE
You guys know your shit and I try to read your threads and neutrition guids but I can't apply them to myself... shit I can't even understand them @ all.. It sucks I hear a lot of different stuff from a lotta different poeple.. What I've learned from reading these forums is getting big is about what you KNOW about lifting and neutrition.

I want to get to a solid 215 mostly muscle

Can someone steer me in the right direction PLEASE HELP ME I need to know

1.)PROPER EATING HABBITS
2.)PROPER work out habbits to build MASS
3.)WHEN to workout
4.)I only know basic workouts.. Don't even know what deadlifts are I have no knowledge to what workout is what.. Only basic stuff like bench, curl, squat ect...

I can bench 185 3 sets of 10 and no more than that.. Been there for ever...

I can curl a 35lb dumbell 3 sets of ten as well

I really neglect my back and my legs... I know its unearthly stupid but I can't really feel a good workout with them... I can maybe do like 7 pullups... sad I know please don't flame me.. I've been debating wether I should ask for help... that's what yall r here for right.... All advice will be VERY much appreciated.

Just keep in mind I've read a lot of stuff on these forums and understand less than half because its confusing... I know basic basic shit like carbs, protein ect.

And I have never read a bodybuilding magazine in my life

Riddick2112 09-21-2007 08:49 PM

first off ditch that routine. A 4-way split is a fairly poor place for a novice to start. You need to start doing the big compound exercises (Squats, Benches, OH presses, Rows, Deads, Chins/Pullups) and doing them often and that means stop thinking in terms of "bodyparts" and start thinking in terms of "lifts".
Stop neglecting your back and legs and start neglecting your arms instead. they are the least of your worries at this time.
I wouldnt bother with that Xplode shit or creatine either, not now anyway. Save your money!

try this link:

http://www.bodybuilding.net/training...light=rippetoe

it isnt the ONLY way to go for a guy in your position but it IS a very good program and the info on this link is basic and straightforward.

jwright715 09-22-2007 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truest (Post 42025)
Ok to start off

I've been working out for about 6 months now.. @ first I had no ruitine... after about 2 months my boy told me to follow this

M- chest(in-decline and regular (all 3)/ triceps (3 sets of 10 on everything)
T- legs(lunge, squat)/ tricep
W- cardio 30 mins
T- shoulders/ biceps
F- back/ legs

No xplode before/ cell mass creatine during/ whey protein after

And eat healthy as possible and eat a lot.


Well for the next 2 months I did that and seen little results.

Btw I'm
6'2 and weigh 190
16 inch arms
I wouldn't say chicken legs but my legs are WEAK AS HELL and it sucks
I Have a little gut
everyone thinks I'm "big" even though I'm bigger than most my age I don't feel big

Before I started lifting I weighed about 180ish and am still in the 180 ish range and it sucks.. I don't get to eat all the time due to a busy schedule but I always find time to try to workout.


BOTTOM LINE
You guys know your shit and I try to read your threads and neutrition guids but I can't apply them to myself... shit I can't even understand them @ all.. It sucks I hear a lot of different stuff from a lotta different poeple.. What I've learned from reading these forums is getting big is about what you KNOW about lifting and neutrition.

I want to get to a solid 215 mostly muscle

Can someone steer me in the right direction PLEASE HELP ME I need to know

1.)PROPER EATING HABBITS
2.)PROPER work out habbits to build MASS
3.)WHEN to workout
4.)I only know basic workouts.. Don't even know what deadlifts are I have no knowledge to what workout is what.. Only basic stuff like bench, curl, squat ect...

I can bench 185 3 sets of 10 and no more than that.. Been there for ever...

I can curl a 35lb dumbell 3 sets of ten as well

I really neglect my back and my legs... I know its unearthly stupid but I can't really feel a good workout with them... I can maybe do like 7 pullups... sad I know please don't flame me.. I've been debating wether I should ask for help... that's what yall r here for right.... All advice will be VERY much appreciated.

Just keep in mind I've read a lot of stuff on these forums and understand less than half because its confusing... I know basic basic shit like carbs, protein ect.

And I have never read a bodybuilding magazine in my life

I agree with Riddick on the Ripptoes Starting Strength. I was in the almost identical situation as you about a year ago. Didnt know much, was confused as hell..then i went on ripptoes and my lifts skyrocketed.

With Ripptoes get accustomed to doing compound lifts..esp deadlifting and squats. Practice, practice ALOT..then practice some more. Good form is mandatory on those big exercises, if for nothing else other than safety.

Do alot of research on ripptoes, google it, search it up on every bodybuilding site you can, theres a ton of info on it. You should be able to recite the workout by heart before you even step in the gym to do it. Start conservative on the lifts, with Ripptoes you add weight to the bar every session, so if you start a little light, you'll work up quick.

Ripptoes is 3 days a week..Monday, Wednesday, Friday..dont workout on days youre not supposed to, theres a reason its a 3 day a week program.

Thats my suggestion.

hrdgain81 09-24-2007 06:46 AM

1.)PROPER EATING HABBITS
Read This (How to Bulk Sticky) - I would pay perticular attention to the pre and post workout nutrition parts, and of course the macro breakdowns.

2.)PROPER work out habbits to build MASS
Riddick has you covered here, the Ripptoe link is a great program for you to be using.

3.)WHEN to workout
This should be covered by the Ripptoe link as well.

4.)I only know basic workouts.. Don't even know what deadlifts are I have no knowledge to what workout is what.. Only basic stuff like bench, curl, squat ect...

The best way to learn how they are done is to go to youtube, and search for each movement. That will get you the basic idea, then use very light wieght till you have your form down.

here is a decent deadlift explination

widdoes2504 09-24-2007 08:13 AM

Hrdgain pretty much nailed it. Good luck :weights:

mvp 09-26-2007 01:45 PM

Ditch that routine. You definitly need to be using less isolation movements, more compound. A good routine you could try is the routine made by Frankie NY, it's called push/pull.

Day 1 - Push, 3x5

Bench Press, OHP (Military Press), Dips

Day 3 - Pull, 3x5

Deadlift, Bent Over Rows, Wide Grip Chins

Day 5 - Legs, 3x5

Squat, Stiff-Leg Deadlift, Hanging Leg Raises (core)

This routine is strict to business, it's compound, and it works, trust me. There's no secret routine out there, but the best way to find something you know will work is keep you diet clean, and base your routine around compound exericses.

Good luck with your training.


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