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mad51234 10-17-2009 02:53 AM

hypertrophy!
 
Hi!I'm 16 years old, height 1.74 weight 69kg.I started to lift weights a year ago.
my workout program is
A. 1)squat 2)flat bench press 3)deadlift 4)calf raises
B. 1)incline bench press 2)chin up 3)up-right row 4)bench press close grip 5)bicep dumbell curl

2 set warm up
4x10-8-6-15
in the 4 set I decrease the weight and I if do 10-15 reps then to the next workout I increase the weight.
I have a 2 day split because I don't have so much time to exercise three days a week.
is this a program for hypertrophy?

goal:gain muscle

Ross86 10-17-2009 04:29 AM

You could do something more efficient.

mad51234 10-17-2009 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross86 (Post 82788)
You could do something more efficient.

can you suggest something?

mad51234 10-17-2009 08:21 AM

what about that?
A:chest-shoulders-triceps
B:legs-back-biceps

A:1)flat bench presses 2)overhead presses 3)dips 4)french presses or overhead tricep extensions

B:1)squat or deadlift 2)pull up 3)calf raises or hyperextensions 4)bicep curls
what reps,sets should I use for hypertrophy only?

Ross86 10-17-2009 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mad51234 (Post 82791)
what about that?
A:chest-shoulders-triceps
B:legs-back-biceps

A:1)flat bench presses 2)overhead presses 3)dips 4)french presses or overhead tricep extensions

B:1)squat or deadlift 2)pull up 3)calf raises or hyperextensions 4)bicep curls
what reps,sets should I use for hypertrophy only?

That would be better. Except that I wouldn't let hyper extensions be an option...they would be required. Definitely rotate the exercises also. You don't need to be doing the same ones week after week after week. So incorporate variations. You don't have to do pull ups every "B" workout; it would be beneficial to substitute them for some type of row.

I typically pair deadlifts with good mornings and squats with RDLs. For my "row", I'll do pull ups, t-bar rows, supine rows, one arm db rows, pendley rows, or hammer strength low rows with bands. I don't typically do the same thing during consecutive workouts unless I have a bad training session and want to work on some specific points at the next available opportunity.

Read this sticky on warming up properly:
http://www.bodybuilding.net/training...perly-663.html

Something that I've had good success with recently is keeping the reps on my big compound movements in the 4-6 range. With all of my accessory lifts, the rep range is 8-12. It gives a good balance for strength and hypertrophy, which are very much related. I will still do a volume workout every 3-4 weeks and do all of my heavy compound lifts in the 8-12 range. There are lots of ways to do it...but not every way is very effective.

mad51234 10-17-2009 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross86 (Post 82793)
That would be better. Except that I wouldn't let hyper extensions be an option...they would be required. Definitely rotate the exercises also. You don't need to be doing the same ones week after week after week. So incorporate variations. You don't have to do pull ups every "B" workout; it would be beneficial to substitute them for some type of row.

I typically pair deadlifts with good mornings and squats with RDLs. For my "row", I'll do pull ups, t-bar rows, supine rows, one arm db rows, pendley rows, or hammer strength low rows with bands. I don't typically do the same thing during consecutive workouts unless I have a bad training session and want to work on some specific points at the next available opportunity.

Read this sticky on warming up properly:
http://www.bodybuilding.net/training...perly-663.html

Something that I've had good success with recently is keeping the reps on my big compound movements in the 4-6 range. With all of my accessory lifts, the rep range is 8-12. It gives a good balance for strength and hypertrophy, which are very much related. I will still do a volume workout every 3-4 weeks and do all of my heavy compound lifts in the 8-12 range. There are lots of ways to do it...but not every way is very effective.

thanks for the answer.

mad51234 10-18-2009 03:07 AM

can I use super set?

Ross86 10-18-2009 05:55 AM

If I superset anything, I always save it for accessory movements.

mad51234 10-18-2009 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross86 (Post 82798)
If I superset anything, I always save it for accessory movements.

what do you mean?

Ross86 10-18-2009 08:55 AM

I don't super set good mornings and deadlifts. But I do super set DB bench press and triceps extensions sometimes. Sets are in the 8-12 rep range.

The retarded head strength coach at the university that I graduated from made the players super set crunches and squats. That's one of the dumbest things I have ever heard of because it lowers the amount of weight you can squat, and GREATLY increases the chances of injury. So this would be an example of something NOT to do.

Basically I think it's a waste to super set anything with one of the major compound movements like squats, deadlifts, or bench press (along with their variants). Especially when you're young and you're still learning the lifts.

iron_worker 10-21-2009 10:42 AM

Seems to me all the rest you could get in between sets of a big lift should be saved for just that... rest!

IW

_Wolf_ 10-21-2009 01:00 PM

Lots of awesome advice in this thread.

My 2 cents:

Do not fall into that dogmatic way of thinking that 3-5 minutes rest is all you need.

I rest for ATLEAST 7-10 minutes in between Deadlift sets - sometimes even 12-15 minutes.

iron_worker 10-21-2009 01:27 PM

Although I see what you're getting at with the extended rest periods... I have tried it a couple times and I find that i cool down, loose my focus and its too hard to get back into it. 7 mins is probably the most I do.

IW

_Wolf_ 10-21-2009 02:17 PM

It also depends for what exercise though...

On Deadlifts when I am doing reps with like 90%+ of my max, I need that much rest.

Otherwise...if I am doing say pull-ups or so..I keep it to 3-5 minutes. Unless I am maxing out on squats in which case I'll keep it at 5 and see how I feel and depending on that I'll rest more or less.

iron_worker 10-22-2009 05:29 AM

Fair enough. So basically what you're saying is don't think you need to stick to a specific rest period. Take what feels good for you and gives you optimum results. Don't be scared to play around with it a little.

IW

_Wolf_ 10-22-2009 07:37 AM

^^^ Exactly


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