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Arnold 03-11-2008 06:43 AM

lats pull down
 
hello i was wondering,

are you supposed to hold down your shoulders during the entire exercise or should you reach up as far as you can when the arms are up straight?

webcore 03-15-2008 12:47 AM

It's a compound movement. Shoulder and elbow is recruited. Extend arms vertically and pull the bar to the top of the chest.

I'd recommend you perform pullup's instead since ithe movement forces the core into play to stabilize your hanging body.

J-Rock 03-15-2008 07:41 AM

Yes that is how the lat pulldown is performed. Basically the same as a pullup, but without using your body weight as resistance. Just make sure you are keeping your back straight when doing the lat pulldown and all other exercises. I see many people with their entire body reclined backwards while heaving the entire stack.

EricT 03-15-2008 10:33 AM

I would like to point out, that the lat pulldown is similar to pullups but not 'basically the same'. The pulldown is not a good preparation for pullups. You get guys who have no problem with a 300 pound stack but can barely do a bodyweight pullup. Just a warning.

J-Rock 03-15-2008 01:07 PM

what I meant by 'basically the same' is the movement of these two exercises. Yes, pullups are more difficult than pulldowns but both should be incorporated into a program.

EricT 03-15-2008 01:30 PM

I wasn't saying you were completly wrong I was just pointing out a big difference so that someone who wanted to get good at pullups wouldn't start thinking they could effectively prepare using pulldowns. As for both of them "should" be incorporated...name me some good reasons why a person doing pullups "should" also do pulldowns, in general. Not to say that there is anything wrong with pulldowns but it's just the should part that is throwing me.

J-Rock 03-15-2008 08:04 PM

Well you asked so I guess I'll tell ya. I suck at pullups. I am still in the conditioning process of my training so I start out my routine using pullups but I can only do like 7 or 8. So, I finish up that move by doing pulldowns. This isn't bad, is it?

fredrick 03-16-2008 03:01 AM

i could do just 6-8 pull-ups, it this like okay for a person who doesnt work out??? or you must me able to do more than that, even though you aint working out?? how is 7 pull ups on a guy who doesnt work out??? average or no good:weights:

EricT 03-16-2008 10:33 AM

Quote:

Well you asked so I guess I'll tell ya. I suck at pullups. I am still in the conditioning process of my training so I start out my routine using pullups but I can only do like 7 or 8. So, I finish up that move by doing pulldowns. This isn't bad, is it?
No it isn't bad but you didn't really say why someone must do pulldowns :). You could probably find a way to develop your pullups...

For instance if you are just doing 7 to 8 pullups whether it is in a set or a few sets, instead of doing that you could concentrate on doing as many pullups as you can. Do multiple sets of low reps with rest periods to see if you can do more pullups. Then shorten the rest periods. There are all sorts of way you can improve rather than just trying to add reps to whatever you are doing. 7 to 8 ain't bad, btw. You've got a leg up.

J-Rock 03-16-2008 10:47 AM

LOL you got me Eric

Arnold 03-18-2008 05:44 AM

Well im a sumo wrestler so its a bit tough for me to do pullups

Arnold 03-18-2008 06:35 AM

nah just joking but they dont have so you can do pullups at my gym for some reason

EricT 03-18-2008 10:17 AM

It is one shitty gym that don't have a pullup bar. That's crasazy :crazy:

What is the world coming to?

widdoes2504 03-18-2008 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric3237 (Post 51536)
It is one shitty gym that don't have a pullup bar. That's crasazy :crazy:

What is the world coming to?

Straight to hell :)

J-Rock 03-22-2008 12:43 PM

Does the gym have a cable station? The piece of equipment that has the cable crossover exercise? If so you can do pullups on the support bar that goes across that section.

SportyBoy 01-09-2013 11:07 AM

If the shoulders aren’t moving down during the pulldown, it’s an arm movement. One good cue that has been around for years is to think about pushing the elbows down, as opposed to pulling with the arms. This tends to put more focus on the lats rather than the biceps.

ruelisla 08-24-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Arnold (Post 50719)
hello i was wondering,

are you supposed to hold down your shoulders during the entire exercise or should you reach up as far as you can when the arms are up straight?

It helps when you straighten your arms up straight because it help more stretch on your lats.

RobConnor 11-16-2013 10:08 AM

Don't allow your shoulders to take too much strain at the top of the movement, you're only stressing ligaments and the joints of the shoulder in a weakened position.

Another tip is to keep your scapula retracted through the entire set (squeeze your shoulder blades together). This will keep your shoulders back and so help avoid injury.


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