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Old 11-25-2009, 05:21 PM   #11
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and then you could rupture a disc which would make you stronger/er/er.
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Old 11-25-2009, 05:38 PM   #12
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EliteFTS could make a shirt for him with text on it that says:
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Old 11-26-2009, 08:27 AM   #13
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and then you could rupture a disc which would make you stronger/er/er.
Way to ruin my fun. I was going to string him along for at least 3 more posts.

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HAHA. Injured(er)
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Old 11-26-2009, 09:50 AM   #14
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Weaker link? I am not sure i follow you with that.

But as you mentioned flyes to failure that is exactly what you do....

Flyes to fail (aiming to fail between 8-12 reps) then follow straight after by bench for 4-6 reps.

If you were just to jump on a bench and bench to failure, the muscle group that is failing first is your triceps so your chest is not getting hit to its max. Whereas if you do flyes to failure then jump on a bench to fail again your chest is getting the benefit of going to complete failure without the triceps being the dictating factor.

By posting HIT i was merely offering an alternative view. I train in volume the majority of the time but i have used and do still use HIT to change up workouts every so often. Both are effective when used right, for me anyway but everyone is different. its just personal preference and perspective.
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:40 AM   #15
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Sounds good except for the fact that the acute fatigue effects as well as the duration of the fatigue will also be at a maximum.

Lower density high volume work can achieve the same stressors with less fatigue and a quicker dissipation. Not to mention that intensity is higher as well.

It seems kind of silly to train for a fatigue effect when you consider that fatigue is a side effect of the training stressors and the fact that large amounts of fatigue are not necessary for a training effect.

If you look at dual factor theory it makes no sense to sky rocket your fatigue because that will only detract from your preparedness. And the fact that the fatigue you're accumulating is slow to dissipate, it will accumulate much faster and across fewer workouts so you'll need to dedicate more time to deloading (dissipating that fatigue).

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Old 11-26-2009, 04:45 PM   #16
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again when i originally brought this up i was only trying to offer another route and it is your and the other pair of tits dogma that is the problem with BBing. Too many whom will not even think of another way of doing things. If it were left to people like you the wheel wouldnt have been invented
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Old 11-26-2009, 04:47 PM   #17
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Oh and ross with lifting experience of 1 year dude what you weighing in at?
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Old 11-26-2009, 05:29 PM   #18
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^ Do you really think that Kane only thinks inside the box ? Shit this guy has done almost all types of training and he knows his shit , so when he says something maybe you should listen....

I think Ross is about 315lbs and last squatted 900lbs

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Old 11-26-2009, 06:48 PM   #19
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hit is like a........triangle wheel.
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Old 11-27-2009, 07:19 AM   #20
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^ Do you really think that Kane only thinks inside the box ? Shit this guy has done almost all types of training and he knows his shit , so when he says something maybe you should listen....
Thanks, Talo!


I'd have to agree with Pity on this one. Big dirty triangle wheel.


Actually, nothing I said was dogmatic. I mentioned dual factor theory, a bit about fatigue, and low density high volume. If you could please point me to a bodybuilder that uses low density for the majority of his exercises, it would be greatly appreciated.

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