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Old 08-08-2008, 09:24 AM
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Read this: http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=459806

There are two parts to this article. It was written by Dave Tate.

Disclaimer: I have no idea what this article is about because I didn't read it, so my views don't necessarily coincide with the views expressed in the above article. I'm pressed for time, so give me a break.
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Old 08-11-2008, 10:49 AM
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I did my leg workout today. After 2 warmups and 2 squats to failure, I was just EXHAUSTED. I really shouldn't have worked out that hard...I haven't done legs since 2 weeks ago before I got sick! This day needs less stuff.
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Old 08-11-2008, 01:58 PM
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Well, I think that what you will find is that it needs less "large muscle group" stuff. Depending on what you do, things like calves, abs, etc (small muscle groups that you isolate) will be tolerable on leg day. I think that I do legs, then some PC or back work, but I agree that it can be a bit much. I counter that by using higher rep sets on my support work and lower reps on my leg work. I have a hard time doing anything after 20 rep squats.
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Old 08-19-2008, 11:54 AM
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I did the pullups workout on friday:
Bodyweight pullups 12,8,6
Cable rows x 2 (top weight=130 x 8)
I forgot to pay attention to the weight I used on curls...

Yesterday I did another chest workout, thus restarting the cycle:
Dumbell Incline x 3 (top weight=2 60's x 8)
Flat Dumbell Fly x 2 (top weight=2 40's x 10)
Military x 3 (TW=80 x 8 wide grip)
Dips (focus on tri's) x 3 (bodyweight 13,10,8)

These both worked good. I also wrote down the weighs I used for the first two workouts I posted on this thread. What do I need to work on the most?

1st Chest day:
Bench 150 x 9
Military 80 x 8 close grip
Bar Incline 110 x 8

Leg day:
Squat 150 x 20

I'm still at 155 lbs, which is quite frustrating because it's been more than a week and I've gained nothing. I might go buy some more anabolic pump...when I was doing that stuff I gained very steady weight and it got me up to like 159, plus I was only taking 2 a day instead of three. Anyways, I wanna post my diet:

I eat 5-6 times a day (not including shakes). The only meal where I eat the same thing every day for that meal is breakfast, making my diet difficult to post. I'll try my best.

Always for breakfast: 1 serving of oatmeal with 1 bread and 1 fruit with multi's and tablespoon of fish oil.

Sometime during the afternoon: 25 grams of protein, whey and/or casein, with ~40 grams of complex carbs (Glycomaize)

Sometime during the day: 3-4 boiled eggs with bread and glass of juice/milk

Sometime during the day: PB&J with glass of milk & fruit

These are the only things I eat every day. My other 2-3 meals vary, but always include some type of meat like chicken, steak, shrimp (I'm allergic to fish), and things like vegetables, pasta, potatoes...

Before bedtime: 1 glass of milk with 25 grams casein.

Sorry I couldn't be more specific. Please comment or question.
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Old 08-19-2008, 01:33 PM
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you need protein with that breakfast
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Old 08-19-2008, 06:57 PM
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you need protein with that breakfast
You mean like whey or just extra food like cheese? Do you think the other aspects of my diet are ok?
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Old 08-19-2008, 08:41 PM
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If you're eating 5-6 meals a day, then you should be getting in at least 30g of protein at EVERY meal. The Anabolic Pump isn't going to make you gain weight by the way. Extra calories will.
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Old 08-20-2008, 07:06 AM
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Frankly, I think it would be easy enough to get your protein through regular foods (and I'm not actually a big believer that protein requirements are NOT as high as everyone says that they are, but I won't debate that here).
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Old 08-20-2008, 05:45 PM
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I get about 1 gram of protein per pound. I personally think it's more about just CALORIES that protein. The thing is, I'm not REALLY skinny, but my stomach isn't that big. I have managed to stretch it out to fit good sized meals, but not really BIG meals like with 30 grams of protein. That seems to be as big as it will get. I do believe in nutrition over supplements, but when I took AP I ate about the same amount of calories, and I just gained pound after pound, even when I didn't work out. It's like the stuff just brings everything you eat straight into your muscles...
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I do believe in nutrition over supplements, but when I took AP I ate about the same amount of calories, and I just gained pound after pound, even when I didn't work out. It's like the stuff just brings everything you eat straight into your muscles...
Well I won't sit here and argue with you...go ahead and do what you want to. What you said makes absolutely no sense physiologically. But maybe you're the only person among the other 6.7 billion that live on this planet that the laws of human physiology don't apply to.
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but not really BIG meals like with 30 grams of protein
Dude, 30g of protein isn't even an entire chicken breast. You just need to learn how to eat.
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