question about rows
 

Hello i was wondering,

when you do rows, surely you dont train the stabilizer muscles around the spine??? just the arm muscles that you lift with???

Rows are primarily a back exercise.

how exactly would someone isolate the stabilizer muscles around the spine and train only them?? please share your thoughts.

I dont' think it was a statement about isolating the stabilizers, he just seems to be confused about the exercise and asking a question.

like ross said, you use ALL the muscles in the back, and the arms when performing rows.

yeah i know. it was a basic question which ross explained perfectly.

i was being sarcastic because of this post of his:

this led to my sarcasm....

and yes, dave and ross are both on the dot.

the row is a compound exercise. it hits a lot of muscles together.

I agree w/ CPDave. When I do rows, especially JS rows, I feel it in my arms, and in basically all of my back. Was that the answer you were looking for, Arnold? We'll guide you however we can.
-John

oh... well that would explain it then.

All of your back and your shoulder and biceps... I rarely do curls

Dave and Ross are spot on and I can see Wolf where the sarcasm comes from (can't blame you).

ok thanks for the answers, thats good to hear that you train the back

sorry about that other post, i was in a bit of a silly mood :biglaugh:


btw i have an idea on how to isolate the back stabilizers... what if you have a really strong neck and you put the back of your head on a pilates ball for example and do neck exercises... surely then you work with your back stabilizers??

You would work some back stabilizers in that case. You would have to be extremely careful not to hurt your neck. Not a good idea IMO.

that makes no sense to do. Do squats, back and core work and you work your "back stabilizers".

all right how do you do core work?

This will help with cores:

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Squats/deads both work your core. Some guys do weighted situps to help with that.

nice:biglaugh:

wow.... um.. do you even know what a core is?

You need to do some research on Everything because it is obvious that you have not done your homework at all. Read the stickies and articles on lifting then go onto google and start reading the basics on lifting. Just spend a couple of days researching so you at LEAST know the basics.

^^^ agreed

What you are talking about-about supporting yourself on a ball-is similar to wrestler's bridges, only you lie on the floor, and make an arch shape with your back. It seems like it could be painful. For your lower-back-including the erector spinae, lay stomach-down on a rest with your legs held down, and lift your upper torso. If that is too easy, hold a plate, and do them this way.