Ripped Or Massive (no inbetween)
 

If you could pick one, which would it be? There is no inbetween. Let's all see what everyone wants out of training. Here's my definitions between the two:
Ripped: Tiny but shredded. Let's say 14-15 inch arms, and weigh 170lbs, under 8% bodyfat and an 8 pack.
Massive: 19-20" guns, weigh about 250, have love handles, 20% bodyfat, barrell chested (and no, I'm not referring to myself)

In reference to what women want, which some of you will argue, here's my opinion on that: I'll use superheroes as examples so everyone can understand.
Put spiderman at one end of the bar in a nice shirt and jeans.
Put the wolverine at the other end wearing the same clothes.
The women don't see how ripped spiderman is, just looks like a 15 year old boy. They look at the wolverine and see his muscles bulging out of his shirt. The first thought the girls think of is what must he look like with his shirt off. Poor spidey, they never gave him a chance to show how ripped he was. So spiderman takes it upon himself to walk over there and ask if they want to see his abs. The girls don't even pay attention to poor spidey. Instead, they ask wolverine to flex those 20" pythons he has for arms. The juices start flowing and the wolverine takes them home, leaving spidey to rethink his workout and diet regieme ...
The moral of the story is that the more muscular you are, the more women want to check under the hood. Tiny "shredded" guys would have to take off their shirts in the middle of a bar to be noticed...And probably get thrown out in the process.

When I think of tiny I think height. If I was at least 5'10 and could be ripped I would definately choose that over being the same height but massive with 20% bodyfat and lovies. Having 20% bodyfat and struggling trying to lose it sucks, especially if your genes make you naturally thick (as mine do). As long as I'm not a short man I would definately want the ripped option.

In my experience in college, women in general want an athletic build (aka skinny guy with good def). Being a bigger more muscular guy doesn't help that much unless your showing it off alot wearing polos and crap. The first assumption unless your guns or some part of your body is showing is that your just a "big guy". And personally, I have learned in college that personallity is key. I know fat guys that do alot better than me with women just because they are smooth operators.

I agree with the personality think. But, when I was in college, they always gravitated towards the bigger muscles plain and simple. I also have alot of experience at UCLA as well in that dept. I'm not saying big with a ring of fat around your muscles, just huge upper dody with some lovehandles.

Yeah, personality is number one as long as you're not either malnutritioned or jolly fat.

I took Biology. But, as everyone knows, the call of the wild (USMC) got the better of me and I dropped out after a whole semester. Best move I ever did.

i think it is a cruel joke...ill go out and see loser looking people with the hottest girls..then i think to myself great talkers or they are wealthy

Wealthy men can afford young women, no matter what their age. Bottom line.

I prefer to be ripped, I dont give a damn about size anymore. Damn, u know how sad I was when my bf went up to 12 to 16 from bad eating habits. I would rather look good in bed for my ole lady than to show myself off at a mcdonalds.

Yeah, when my test starts dropping when I'm over 35 or something, I'll obviously change gears and look towards overall health, getting as ripped as I can, and be a cardio stud. :(

As for now, it's better to burn out then to fade away. As big as my body allows. :D

What is ur BF% 311??

Yo no se....I'll find out today though, I'd like to know myself. :cool:

Pardon me sir...but....did you..
 

Pardon me sir, but when you were talking about seeing Wolverine in a tight shirt and jeans, and were talking about how all the ladies would find him hot...well...I'm just wondering how much time you've spent imagining that scenario... :D

For the record, I pick size over definition, because:

a) I don't work out to impress women, that would be petty and show a serious lack of self esteem and self worth. I work out to terrify men. :D

b) Can you say "no cardio"!?

c) I don't know about you guys, but I've always found it much easier to chissel down from a mountainous size, than to get cut and try add muscular weight afterwards.

d) For the record, Taurus private messaged me and said "Personally, I think Spidey's @ss would look much tighter in jeans than Wolverine's." Thanks Taurus, but that's just too much info. dude!!!

:D

Raven

Taurus is one helluva funny mofo, I think he got a thing for male fanny's. :D Haha, nice observation raven, 311, welcome to the gay straight guy club.

Apology...
 

I'd like to take the time to aplogize to Taurus for my last inappropriate comment regarding an alleged Private message that he may or may not have sent to me, mentioning a certain superhero's glutes.

Taurus, I apologize for posting that in the public forum. I should have respected your privacy and kept it in PM's.

Sorry friend! :D

Seriously though, do you really feel small at 245-250lbs? I'm around the same weight, well actually, I've dieted down to about 235lbs. The only time I really feel small at all, is when I come across a big son-of-a-b*tch like GuardDog in the gym. The best way to cure that is to go work out at a Balley's or a Shapes. :D

Let me get this straight....
 

You mean you don't actually work out right now and you haven't ever for more than a month? (I must have read that wrong).

If you don't work out, are you coming on BBN for the super hero/glute chat? :D

Yes! Work out!

You're a Canadian pothead, aren't you?

Oh Boy!
 

You had me until this part... :D

"...or having a green weiner roast..."

Is this a comic book thing regarding the Hulk or the Green Lantern?

I'd
 

I'd eat Ulma Thurman's @ss cheeks. Wait, you can't eat your @ss and have it too, so I take that back. Dude, we've totally hijacked this thread, let me reword this thing...

Taurus, the other day I took one of my NO2 products, and it gave me such a woodie, that I threw "Alive" in to my Beta Max 2000 machine and I started thinkin' to myself (through my NO2 haze), "Man! I'd eat Ulma Thurman's @ss cheeks!" :D

Raven

Why don't the two of you go to the new chatroom instead of hijacking al the threads?? :eek:

For some reason, I find Taurus very entertaining. Funny dude, I wish I had his sense of humor, and vocabulary. Sound to me some time like he watches too many movies and James patterson books, because I swear to god, I have seen those things before in the books that I have read. :D

???
 

I still can't get over somebody being impressed with your vocabulary...

As far as James Patterson, I believe he is the guy that wrote the series "Along Came A Spider" and "Kiss The Girls" with Morgan Freeman. I've read those two as well as Pop Goes The Weasel and Cat & Mouse. He's a pretty good writer.

Hey, as far as hijacking this thread goes...if you read the whole thing, I contributed as much or more than anybody else to the topic. Sheesh. :D

ok the comic book dorkness is going to come out on this one.
this isn't the best of cases.. Wolverine does not have 20% body fat.. so this story contradicts what you say about having both big and cut because Wolverine is both

Answer the question...
 

Yeah, but that's not the question. Who do you think's @ss looks better in tight jeans, Spiderman or Wolverine? (if you were a chick)

<with a lisp> ohh I don't know.. can't I have them both.. :p

Who's responsible for my thread to turn gay? :eek:

between those two i'd take ripped... 20% bf is WAY to high for my liking.

I don't know about the 20% BF but I preffer to be massive. I like the diet better anyway.

Well, u say stuff like My influence flow through ur vains, etc. etc.. He write those kind of sentences in his books. Well, if u were to read any of his books I would say read, Kiss the Girls or Along came a Spider. Then move on to the more recent ones like cat and mouse, four blind mices, etc. etc..Dont Read Joanne's Diary to Nicholas, its somewhat gay, not the story, but just certain things.