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oleshifty 01-05-2010 05:58 PM

Sooo confused...what am I doing wrong?
 
Looking over my stats, 2 years ago I was

5' 6", 149lbs, benching 185-200 max. My arms were a tad over 14 inches


I was at school, so didn't eat/sleep the best, and if I had a bunch of tests, I would go a couple weeks without lifting.


After graduation, started eating better (atleast a lot more), started sleeping 8-10 hours a day. Have been a lot more consistent with lifting.

I'm currently 5' 6", 152lbs, benching 290-310 max. My arms are a tad over 14 inches.

I've gained 3 lbs, and LOOK the same as I did then. I don't look anymore cut, I don't look any bigger.


All summer I was going for the "get big" look, took in as many calories as possible, 3-4 protein shakes a day, 5-6 balanced meals...normally lifted 6 days a week.

For the last month, I've decided to "cut" and added a bunch of cardio to my routine. I figure if I can't get "big" I should atleast get "ripped".

I lift 3 days a week (doing different muscle groups, but I kept general workout routine the same to avoid LOSING muscle) and run 3 times a week (normally do 3 miles in just under 30 minutes). I've started eating "smarter", lots of salads, 1/2 a chicken breast per meal, have protein shakes between meals, etc. I allow a couple 'cheat' meals per week, and try to avoid salt all together.


After a month, I still look the same I always have. My bench is closer to the 290 range (was closer to 315 range a month ago, when I was eating everything I could get my hands on).


What am I doing wrong? Would you recommend continuing "cut" routine, or should I stick with "get big" routine? It seems no matter how I eat/lift my physical appearance stays constant (has over the last few years)...the only change is how strong I am. I love working out, but it's hard to keep motivation when I really have NOTHING to show for it. Not saying I only do it to get attention, but some recognition would be nice, and girls don't walk around asking someone "what do you lift?"

TALO 01-05-2010 06:11 PM

Your 152lbs I don't think you need to cut. So go for a bulk .

Benching 315 is very good ! I'm thinking your close to a record there with your weight being so low . Do you have any video's of that bench ?

Without seeing what you are eating everyday it is hard to say if you actually ate enough. How many calories are you taking in ?

oleshifty 01-05-2010 06:24 PM

first... not trying to be a 'internet warrior'

never put up 315 (got hit by a truck few years back, messed up my shoulder it hurts for weeks after a heavy lift)

I put up 225x10 on a regular basis...I do 245x6 or 245x8 on days I want to "lift heavy" (reps vary a little) and i've done 285x3 as a "max".

I have chicken legs, a 6-pack ONLY when I really flex, and slight love handles, no clearly defined arms (unless I flex), so I'd like to go one way or the other.



Typical diet now is salad (5 times a day), normally have egg-salad sandwhich, 1/2 chicken breast, or about 6oz of steak with salad. Protein shakes throughout (mainly while I'm at work).


Before, I was drinking probably 15 beers a week, ate 4 or 5 frozen pizzas a week, hamburgers (2 or 3 at a time several times a week), chicken breasts, sandwhiches, lasagna, meatloaf, tacos, etc. I just ATE, no real rhyme or reason, but still did protein shakes at work (keep me from getting super hungry)

oleshifty 01-05-2010 06:38 PM

and for the record (i got curious after that post)

Weight Class Name X-Bwt Bench Press (lbs) Date
114 Andrzej Stanaszek 3.51 391 11/16/94
123 Rick Couch 3.06 377 4/10/93
132 Joe Bradley 3.00 397 12/6/80
148 Alex Poku 3.02 435 1/13/90
165 Rick Weil 2.94 485 7/23/83
181 Rick Weil 3.06 556 6/29/86
198 Mike Macdonald 2.84 562 10/4/80
220 Mike Macdonald 2.64 582 5/19/79
242 Jeremy Hoornstra 2.56 615 9/29/06
275 Ted Arcidi 2.36 650 11/13/83
308 Scot Mendelson 2.28 701 10/12/02
SHW Scot Mendelson 2.28 715 5/22/05



I'm about 120 lbs short of the record

TALO 01-05-2010 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oleshifty (Post 84167)
first... not trying to be a 'internet warrior'

never put up 315 (got hit by a truck few years back, messed up my shoulder it hurts for weeks after a heavy lift)

I put up 225x10 on a regular basis...I do 245x6 or 245x8 on days I want to "lift heavy" (reps vary a little) and i've done 285x3 as a "max".

I have chicken legs, a 6-pack ONLY when I really flex, and slight love handles, no clearly defined arms (unless I flex), so I'd like to go one way or the other.



Typical diet now is salad (5 times a day), normally have egg-salad sandwhich, 1/2 chicken breast, or about 6oz of steak with salad. Protein shakes throughout (mainly while I'm at work).


Before, I was drinking probably 15 beers a week, ate 4 or 5 frozen pizzas a week, hamburgers (2 or 3 at a time several times a week), chicken breasts, sandwhiches, lasagna, meatloaf, tacos, etc. I just ATE, no real rhyme or reason, but still did protein shakes at work (keep me from getting super hungry)

So your going to want to increase your total intake ( protein , carbs and fat ).

Also start squatting and deadlifting if your not already.

EricT 01-06-2010 06:09 AM

I think the thing that may be confused are your goals.

First: Do you want to "lift" or do you want to bodybuild?

You only mentioned the bench press but you mentioned that you plan your workouts in terms of muscle groups.

To me that suggests confused goals. I.E. you train like a bodybuilder but think like a lifter.

You can train for strength and size but one needs to be the primary focus.

oleshifty 01-06-2010 07:13 AM

I do SOME lower body (squats/leg press) but focus on upper body. I want to get stronger, but I'd also like to LOOK fit. (6 pack, cut arms, bla bla bla)

iron_worker 01-06-2010 10:59 AM

Guys with big legs don't look fit?

Maybe I missed something.

IW

oleshifty 01-06-2010 12:17 PM

I wear jeans, I have bad knees, just not my cup of tea.

Shouldn't have to have huge legs to have a larger or more toned upper body

Pitysister 01-06-2010 01:36 PM

do you have bad knees because you neglect glute work? or is there an injury history?

EricT 01-06-2010 03:23 PM

Pity I don't think he really meant he has bad knees...he was simply dismissing lower body work with a smart ass statement because he's not hearing what he wants to hear.

Guys...really. It's not in the details. It's in the big picture. Can you not see that picture emerging?

Is this it..I want to look like a lean and mean athletic machine except not have to train like one?

oleshifty 01-06-2010 03:40 PM

I did lower body all summer with my brother (starting line football player) after 2 months, my knees still hurt EVERYTIME i did squats. Not worth it.

I can curl my weight, and bench twice it. Don't tell me about not wanting to do hard work. Big picture--I could care a less how my legs look. I have no need in real life to be able to leg press massive amounts of weight. If my legs can carry the weight my arms can lift...I'm fine. I lift because it's fun. I have certain goals in mind, they OBVIOUSLY are not yours. I didn't ask for help on making YOUR goals. I asked for help in reaching mine. If you don't want to help, then don't bother commenting.

I'm an electrical engineer by trade, and if someone asks me to design a computer chip to control a cell phone, I'm not going to tell them to build a fax machine. A fax machine MAY be better, but it's not wanted.

EricT 01-06-2010 04:09 PM

I asked you a question designed to help your zero in on just what it is you want so that you can then plan based on that and then GET results. Which is what you wanted.

You gave me a one line answer that contained VAGUE goals. Confirming what I said. Be strong. Look fit.

Had NOTHING to do with my goals and everything to do with helping you find yours. Not until I provoke you do you come through with the real picture.

Or at least some of it.

If you want results you have to have clearly visualized goals and a clearly visualized plan of attack those specific goals.

Being strong may have very specific definitions to any one person. If a big bench press and curling your bodyweight is what you consider strong, more power to you and I'm fine with that.

However, it is still not clear what you want. I wanted to help and would have but that would require you to answer my questions after giving them some real thought. Probably you wanted quick easy answer to vaguely defined questions.

I think a cell phone, computer chip, and fax machine are all VERY specific compared to anything you've said. And you say that as if I have made suggestions...which I have not.

Good luck on your curls though. And you computer chip.


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