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Old 04-21-2006, 08:03 PM   #1
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Hello, I am starting completely over with everything. My diet sucks,although have made great gains in strenth, I know it would be better if I just ate right. So
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6'4
300lb
mid build, slow metablism, BMR:2786
Age:18
Currently Working out as little as possible trying to get shoulder recopperated.
Diet:trying for 6 meals a day I will list what i want to do.
6am Breakfast/preworkout:4 eggs/can of tuna or other meat/Protien shake
815am After workout/ 1/4 can of peanut butter/ any meat i can find
11-12am lunch/peantbutter sandwich with eggs/ some other meat
330pm:Any protien i can find/Jap noodles
500pm: chicken/protien shake/eggs
800pm:Eggs/chicken or beef/beans/brown rice
WELL thatz my meal plan ruffly some of that im at school so its what ever i have/ With all meals i will drink milk and water.
I am going to start taking CEE in addition to the new diet.
I am Still going to be working out 2 times a day. 4 days a week. There will be an alteration of maxing and light lifting legs and arms.
{{{{{BTW IS POWER CLING LEGS OR ARMS}}}}}
Well that is the best I can think of if you have any additions / questions/ suggestions
Also thinking of using Anobalics extreme stack includes ErgoMAX LMG, Prostanozol, and a bottle of Pefect Cycle liver protect.
Thank you for all of your patince and help in my negliegence of this topic.

Btw sorry if this needs to be moved more nutrition then anything else didnt get into weights...
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Old 04-21-2006, 08:57 PM   #2
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1 addition I can think of is what are/is your goal(s)? Are you bulking it looks that way with the peanut butter and CEE. If you're are cutting maybe consider dropping the PB. As for weights, are you getting every muscle worked? Legs,Back,Chest,Bi,Tri,Traps, Shoulders(though maybe light lifting). You said you're alternating light and heavy loads with arms and legs are you including back and chest? So for now list some of your goals and an example of your routine.
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Old 04-21-2006, 09:07 PM   #3
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Ok. You are right bulking I can lose the weight later. Also I use pb just cuz its cheap and acessable. Yes every muscle group is worked. My week includes all the
following lifts at least 2 times{{Stiffleg deadlifts,deadlifts,squats,bench, pushdown, pulldowns, curls, butterfly.}}
As for a schedule:::
Mon::Legs-stifflegs,deadlifts,squats///afternoon-arms bench,pulldowns, pushdowns,curls///All Heavy Weights
Tues:: Do opposite and light wieghts
Wens do same as mon light
Thurs: Opposite and heavy
I bench every time i see one so... shoulders chest all that are getting there...
As far as goals, I am just looking at getting muscle, definition and maxes up quite a bit. Figure since muscle burns more cals then fat it will be easier to lose fat if u have more cals burned per day.
Also dont you need fat to get muscle??? just something i heard.
I think that is all the muscles
Also people keep talking carbs i want to stay away is that ok or do i really need them to be productive weights, wouldnt think so just makin sure
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why dont you try Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength for Beginner Program...? its good at making you bulk... i mean, i have bulked pretty well on that program so far (though i wont disclose any details till i finish the program next week)..

if you dont like the way it looks (which is ok too), you could try OVT... OVT wont make you lift killer weights like Mark's Program, but you'll DEFINITELY bulk up on that....

if you want, i'll pm / post those programs out here...

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If you keep your current routine you may want to have a rest period if your hitting all your muscles in one day, and 5 days a week, they could soon be overtrained. I suggest taking atleast one day break out of that all or refer to anuj's suggestion or his library.
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Old 04-22-2006, 07:16 AM   #6
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I was looking for those but couldnt find the post. I did see one post called Bill Stars 5x5 what do you think about that... if you could pm me the links of the other programs i would like to take a look. I did look at your page and trying to see if i can incompass that into the 5x5. I may just switch to your work out its what i do anyways for the most part, And getting a Great work out from it.

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which programs do you need to look at... i dont need to pm them to you, i can post them here as well - unless you have a problem with that....

so, whats it gonna be...?
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Old 04-22-2006, 09:21 AM   #8
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Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength for Beginner Program.
aslo what are rows... and the diff between olimpic and reg squats
also what do you think about my diet???pretty much 6 meals of protien and 2 servings of shake 2 times a day... 90 grams
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Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength for Beginner Program.
aslo what are rows... and the diff between olimpic and reg squats
1.) i have attached Mark Rippetoe's Program..

2.) depends which rows you are referring to... barbell rows are like this: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exer...er+Barbell+Row
this is a T-Bar Row: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exer...Name=T-Bar+Row
i however, like to do bb rows with an underhand grip... i even do JS Rows with an underhand grip...

3.) i dont know about OL Squats and Reg Squats, but i do my Squats A2G.. here is a link: http://exrx.net/WeightExercises/Glut...FullSquat.html
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exer...ell+Full+Squat
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exer...=Barbell+Squat

i hope this helps
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Old 04-22-2006, 09:54 AM   #10
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i would suggest slowely increasing the calories.....i dont know if this was mentioned but if you start off with a regular diet and then the next day go to a diet with 4,000+ calories chances are your gunna gain alot of fat.
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