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Old 09-25-2005, 11:51 AM   #11
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I suppose I can try this for a week or so and see if I like it, but I haven't even heard of half the lifts the guy talks about in his article. And the lifts you mentioned I just don't see by doing thoes few of lifts per day making and gains.
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Old 09-25-2005, 11:57 AM   #12
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Unfortunately, you won't gain anything in a week. Programs need at least a month or more to see anything. So, here's a few suggestions that will be vitally important to your progress!

1. Go here and look up the 4 principles of hypertrophy (what you want)
http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/hst_index.html

2. Google the lifts in that article. Doing isolations are the very worst thing you can do. Always should be compounds, then maybe an isolation or two as an after-thought.
High pulls, cleans, A2G squats, are all detrimental IMO....

Dr.X, give me some help!

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Old 09-25-2005, 12:29 PM   #13
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I have to say, I'm right with 311 on the frequency thing. And remember, an upper/lower split is not necessarily harder. You're trading volume for frequency.

I actually find it much easier and somewhat liberating to train all muscle groups several times a week at a lower volume than to train them once at high volume. Its a lot less boring, and, I don't know, about a hundred times more effective.

If your building up fatique in some kind of cycle, there obviously may come a point where you're going to be rundown, but, personally. I'd rather become exhausted after a whole bunch of productive workouts than just a few (that may be less productive).

I'm not saying that some high volume work on lagging body parts is not beneficial. But even then I think increasing the frequency on those body parts even more while keeping the rest of your program the same will probably work better.

I'd give what 311 has suggested a good try, much longer than a week. I find I really LIKE high frequency training, whereas I hate high volume training because I used to work my ass off for very little return.

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I suppose I can try this for a week or so and see if I like it, but I haven't even heard of half the lifts the guy talks about in his article. And the lifts you mentioned I just don't see by doing thoes few of lifts per day making and gains.
read up on the article section and you will see what is being suggested to you is all about. try it and let us know. I guarantee you that after 1 week you will be convinced that those "few" lifts per day will kick your ass

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So try out 311's routine that he listed, just thoes lifts and sets?
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The lifts are really for your own choosing, but if you have no idea what you want to do, then 311's is a good start. Remember, he suggested you could change out exercises every week.

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I guarantee you that after 1 week you will be convinced that those "few" lifts per day will kick your ass
Yeah. Although I've tried to get away from the notion that my ass always has to be kicked in order to make gains. And it's not a bunch of isolations exercises. All your muscles are going to be hit in many different ways. For instance, it's hard to work lats without bi's, etc.

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So try out 311's routine that he listed, just thoes lifts and sets?
or something very similar..
look into HST, DFHT and DC training.. they all teach the basic notion of training the whole body more than once a week.
there is web sites on the training stickys that will help you...
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Yeah. Although I've tried to get away from the notion that my ass always has to be kicked in order to make gains..
it was just a figure of speech in response to not believing that these types of workouts will get results..
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it was just a figure of speech in response to not believing that these types of workouts will get results..
Yeah, bud, I know. I just didn't want him to pick up that tendency (which I have) that tells you you're not doing enough in a workout because you can still walk or something, you know what I mean - that would be counter productive. I didn't mean to suggest that you were blowing smoke.
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