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Hey all. In light of all the confusion lately, I'd like to give this a very big BUMP. Someone's killing bodybuilding with his posting lately. Hopefully he'll have questions to LEARN something from all us "newbs"....
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Enjoyed reading through this. Forgive me if I drift a little off topic but I hope this will help and encourage someone.
I read the muscle mags in the 1980s but today they are the last thing I would read. I started training in 1982 I was 19 years old I trained my whole body for an hour 3 times per week Monday, Wednesday and Friday and I entered the Mr Ireland contest two years later I had a good proportioned natural physique and I beat guys bigger than me coming third in my class and i got a nice trophy. Let me state I never took steroids of any type and I never will I have always been 100% clean. I thought to myself I can do better than this next year so I decided to go on a split routine involving high intensity training as advocated in the Mags by Pros After six months killing myself in the gym I started getting severe pains in my head I ended up in the Royal Victoria Hospital in Belfast getting a brain scan. Thankfully I was clear but they kept me in for a few days and advised me to rest for a few weeks and to cut back on my training. Ill return to training for the normal guy later. I became totally disillusioned trained less and less up until 1988 when I ceased training completely. To me Bodybuilding was about health and fitness I became sickened that my association NABBA tollerated steroid use. In my time I have met Mr Universe and Mr Olympia contestants when they visited Belfast I could name who won what back then but for the past 20 years I switched off completely I had no idea who was Mr Olympia and only heard of Ronnie Coleman for the first time last month as I searched for information on the net I watched this very clip on utube my jaw hit the floor. This guy has probably many fans on here but to me he looks like a freak. In my opinion the most perfect male Bodybuilder was Steve Reeves He was perfectly proportioned . Coleman just looks like a carton character from a marvel comic to me. You can check what size you should be here http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/calbs.htm Im now back in training and making very rapid progress here is my routine one easy warm up before each set. All exercises for one set only using High intensity to absolute failure Lateral Raises 6-10 reps Dumbbell Shrugs 6-10 reps Incline Machine Bench Press 6-10 reps Dips 6-10 reps Pec Dec Flye 6-10 reps Lat Pulldowns (Front) 6-10 reps Lat Pulldown (Back) 6-10 reps Rowing 6-10 reps Squats 8-10 reps Leg Extensions 8-12 reps Calf Raises 15-20 reps Leg Raises Max Triceps Pulldowns 6-10 reps Incline Dumbbell Curls 6-10 reps Seated Dumbbell Concentration curls 6-10 reps Running on treadmill for 2 kilometres within 15 minutes That it and its working for me big time id add overhead presses but they hurt my shoulder. Training Total body is the way to go your body needs time to recover and dont put crap into your body. Stay Natural. |
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And with little of the supplements that we have today . Most of these guys before the 1960s trained total body three days per week if anyone is not genetically gifted training twice per week say Monday and Thursday for around an hour is best. I know people who have made great gains on 2 workouts per week. I got nowhere when I used a split routine. John Grimek was another old timer with a superb physique Heres an article where a guy speaks of Reeves telling him in 1977 of his fears for the future of the sport. http://www.mariostrong.com/anabolic.html I found it incredible tonight when I read that some of these guys are dead I met and saw Johny Fuller and Ray Mentzer Pose Unbelievable that his brother Mike has also passed away and Edwardo Kawak Im not passing judgment some may be because of steroids use some not Im just shocked as I have just found out by reading that article tonight. Im Genuinely saddened. |
You can't really prescribe a "best" way for someone's entire training career. The fact is that people fail to realize that their needs and tolerances change as their training age changes. Trying to do the same training year after year, no matter what it is is just as responsible for lack of consistent progress as the taining itself.
That is not to say that people need to make broad sweeping changes all the time but they do need to be able to adapt their training to their changing needs as they go along. And those needs of course are going to be based on their goals as well. Not to be raining on anyone's parade, but not many are going to be able to get bigger and bigger throughout an entire career JUST doing fullbodies anymore than most average trainees will do well on bodypart splits starting out as compared to fullbody. A bigger problem, imho, than the trends in training are people's need to go from one extreme to the other. Training 6 days a week on a bodypart split is bad so therefore training 2 to 3 days per week is "best". There is not one best way. We go around saying "2 or 3 days is best" which is an OVERREACTION and pretty soon, due to it not being the best for everyone you'll get an UNDERREACTION and everybody will be doing bodypart splits again. Avoid both over and underreaction....realize that the answer is based on the individual and likely lies somewhere in the middle. And when it comes to splits, you have to rate them on a continuum. Not all splits are created equal. The ever popular westside is a "split". A split can still be high frequency and proper distribution of volume. And that is the key...the distribution. Fullbodies are great when their great. I myself cannot really make do with a fullbody anymore. Even if I try it requires way too much manipulation. And upper lower or some other split with similar distrbution works best for me...especially my needs for continued strength gains and needing maximal work. People keep mentioning supplements and we certainly have a lot more help on that front. Especially help meeting our protein needs. But we also have a whole lot more knowledge when it comes to nutrition as well. |
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