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Old 12-12-2011, 10:14 AM   #21
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So are you looking to shed some pounds to start with? It might not be a bad idea by your stats unless you're seriously muscular...

If I were you I would start around 2250-2500cals/day. That may be a bit high but it's best to start slightly higher and edge down slowly I find.

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thanks dude yeah i think it would be a good idea to shed some pounds 2250 sounds reasonable thanks for the advice
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Old 12-12-2011, 06:33 PM   #22
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You could set up a training journal in the personal journal section. That way I could check in on you and see how things are going. I have a journal there and one of the only ones left who keeps it up to date. lol

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Old 12-13-2011, 04:03 PM   #23
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You could set up a training journal in the personal journal section. That way I could check in on you and see how things are going. I have a journal there and one of the only ones left who keeps it up to date. lol

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dude the journal sounds interesting and it would help you to help me so im gunna look into that but can i just clarify something here..workout A chest 3 x5 do you mean 3x5 each position or just flat ?

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Just flat.

When in doubt, keep it simple.

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I tell you, there is a wealth of info that has been given. However, I am a huge believer in Dumbbells. Here's why, you have no weak arm. By this I mean both sides develop together. Oft times I have seen the strong arm take over on curls and presses with a barbell

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I tell you, there is a wealth of info that has been given. However, I am a huge believer in Dumbbells. Here's why, you have no weak arm. By this I mean both sides develop together. Oft times I have seen the strong arm take over on curls and presses with a barbell
I don't know how true this is. I've used dumbells for years and my left arm has always been stronger doing one arm dumbbell curls. I can always crank out one or two more with my left arm even after my right is completely gased. And as much as I've tried, the right arm never seems to catch up. Which is odd considering I'm right handed. (makes me wonder how strong my left arm would really be if I switched it up, so to speak )....I don't believe that you can attain true balance when it comes to strength. Whether using dumbbells or the barbell. The key is to look balanced, and even this can be hard. All this said the routine outlined by IW was not an advanced routine which would incorporate isolation movements using dumbbells but one based on the fundementals and compound movements used by a beginning bodybuilder to not only shed unwanted bodyfat but build bulk.
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Precisely.
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Old 12-15-2011, 08:10 AM   #28
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you guys are giving me a good idea how body building works i appreciate this

taking into consideration my diet is just as important i decided to TRY put together a diet plan iv never done this before so can yo tell me wether it sucks or if i am thinking correctly


Monday
9pm
scrambled egg 289KL 23.7g
1 scoop protein powder 120 KL 20g
+ 1 banana 105KL 1.3g
+200ml semi skimmed milk 100KL 7.2g
total – 325KL 29.5g

11am workout
post workout
2 scoops protein powder 240KL 40g
+ 1 banana 105KL 1.3g
+ 400ml semi skimmed milk 200KL 14.4g
total - 545KL 54g

3pm snack
chicken & mushroom pasta sauce 355KL 13.6g

5 or 6pm
100g of baby potatoes 70KL 1.4g
gravy
2 pork loin steaks 222KL 38.8g
160g birds eye field fresh veg 75KL 2.5g
4 chocolate tea cakes << just to boost my calorie 240KL 2.8g

total = 607KL 45.2g
daily total 1832KL 246g

Tuesday
9 pm
crumpets x 3 - 30 g butter 294-KL 3g
1 scoop protein powder 120 KL 20g
+ 1 banana 105KL 1.3
+200ml semi skimmed milk 100KL 7.2g
total - 619KL 37g

11am workout
post workout -
2 scoops protein powder 240KL 40g
+ 1 banana 105KL 1.3g
+ 400ml semi skimmed milk 200KL 14.4g
total - 545KL 54g
3pm snack
2 slice brown bread 58KL 2.5g
1 tin tuna 105KL 25g
2 table spoon mayo 100KL 0.2g

5 or 6 pm
2 fish fillets 524KL 26.2g
pack chicken rice 164KL 9.7g
tin of beans 164KL 9.7g
100g of baby potatoes 70KL 1.4g
total - 922KL 47g
daily total - 2349 KL 165.7 g


Wednesday
9pm
1 scoop protein powder 120 KL 20g
+ 1 banana 105KL 1.3g
+200ml semi skimmed milk 100KL 7.2g
30g ready break 108KL 3.5g
200ml semi skimmed milk 100KL 7.2g
total - 533KL 33.2g

11am workout
post workout -
2 scoops protein powder 240KL 40g
+ 1 banana 105KL 1.3g
+ 400ml semi skimmed milk 200KL 14.4g
total - 545KL 54g

3pm snack
noodles 114KL 3.7g


5 or 6pm
2 lamb leg steaks 374KL 36g
100g of baby potatoes 70KL 1.4g
gravy
160g birds eye field fresh veg 75KL 2.5g
2 slice brown bread 58KL 2.5g
4 chocolate tea cakes << just to boost my calorie intake 240KL 2.8g
total – 2009 142.1


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Any way to make it more consistent? Your protein intake dropped way off on the last couple days. I also wouldn't be using chocolate tea cakes to boost your calories. lol

Another note would be to shoot for 5 or 6 meals per day. The more you can spread out your nutrition over the day, the better.

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Old 12-16-2011, 03:32 AM   #30
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i thought i would 'treat' my self Lol
but i shall remove the teacakes now sir :(
how much protein can we digest at a time ?

how does this time interval sound ?
9am breakfast
11 workout
post workout protein shake < is the shake enough or should i add some food ?
3pm snack
6pm tea
9pm snack
should i drink a pint of water with every snack because i dnt get much fluids throughout the day ?
i was thinking of gettin my self to bed around 10pm
dude ino i ask alot of questions and basicly ask you to wipe my arse LOL but your info helps alot
another thing when i post quick reply should it show up in the thread straight away ? because i look and c it hasn't posted and end up posting 6 times

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