I should had become a scientist. I'm just a hard working country hick trying to get a good honest sup. that freakin works, to go along with a good hard workout. Save the magic pill for the wanna be. I have the protien sup down along with a good clean diet. Any thing else I can throw in there without getting to tech. Brand names and description would help. The 400lb lady at the GNC here aint much help, working on comish. ( ya, here in Char. SC)