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Originally Posted by WonderMonkey
In the strictest sense the flye can minimize the involvement of the triceps and really hit the chest hard. Do them strict and you will notice a difference. I feel that both should be used in a cycle to keep the chest off-balance.
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I think all they do is fatigue the chest. If you are going to use them, I'd say maybe a set or two after your workout. Only heavy compound movements will force your muscles to grow. Flyes, cables, ect. limit your use of heavy poundage. People think flyes and cables shape your chest, but they don't. These types of exercises provide you with some extra definition if that's what you are training for.
Dr.X, all flyes do is fatigue your chest before you hit the heavy movements like bench. I made the mistake of doing flyes for a warmup and it limited me on my bench press. If I was to do 70 lb dumbbells for a warmup, which is the dumbest thing I have ever heard, then I'd probably drop alot of weight on my bench. It all boils down to which exercises are best for building mass. I'll keep my chest fresh and stick to 350 for reps rather than fatigue it with some flyes and then do 315 for reps. :o