your talking in terms of protien shakes, he could be taking in a lot more protien in solid foods.

I would suggest not worrying about what other people are doing, focus on yourself, and what is gonna make you bigger and stronger. what works for "big guys" and naturals isnt going to work for hardgainers and those with high metabolisms.

I know people who have never lifted a wieght in thier lives, but look like fitness models, that doesnt mean I sit on my ass all day like they do.

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