yeah i'm still a ways off from trying it. Even if you have very good results I may still hold off. i am planning on jumping right into my heavy bulker after i reach my cutting goal, I dont know if i want to jump right from xfactor to a ph/ps cycle. Might not be the best idea.

but that decision is still about 10-15lbs of fat away

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