Give me a break. Do you really think people are obese and unhealthy because they adhere to the food pyramid? There are way too many factors to consider to back up a statement like that.

The food pyramid wasn't desinged for bodybuilders. Whether fifty grams of protein is accurate or not, it is certainly not necessary for the average individual who doesn't bodybuild or exercise very much to be taking in scads of extra protein. And the actual statistics show that Americans take in a whole lot of protein. We are one of the most meat heavy nations in the world. Yes, on average more than 50 grams a day.

It is generally acknowledge that athletes or weight training individuals need more protein. It is just how much more protein that is the debate. As bodybuilders we tend to advocate around 1.5 to 2 grams per lbs of lbm a day. There is research to back that up and is what I recommend and what I have had the best results from.

In order to make a point, we do not need to pretend that a bodybuilder diet is appropriate for everyone. It is not. Are we talking about Atkins here, or what?

Likewise, I would like to see some real info about these obese and protein deficient individuals in AMERICA.

However, I am not trying to muddy the waters for you, Spunky. I think you are on the right track. I've also heard that it can be difficult for women to get their abs back in shape after pregnancy. But if it has been four years then the abdominal wall should be healed and if you get on a consistent program I bet you'll see results.