This is going to warant some serious self testing in the near future. I cant go balls out with it until after I finish my dicana/stizm test. But Imo a meal specific dosage of fenugreek, used with a mild stim/apitite suppreser could be amazingly benificial.

Do you know of anything other then stims that can induce fat and muscle IR? I cant be on stims too long, they can cause depression, and rebound fat gain for me so i have to be careful. I usually cycle them 2 weeks on 2 weeks off.

oh and i love this kinda shit by the way. Glad someone here has a similar interest eric.

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