Originally Posted by Eric3237

Oh, absolutely. I am not debating that kind of phenomenom at all. Some people have great natural strength. And it's even possible that that person could increase his strength without noticing substantial muscle growth. We've established that.

What I am talking about is the limits of strength increase without substantial muscle growth. If a really skinny guy can already bench 300 with ease, I don't think you'll often see that guy increasing that strength considerably without more muscle. Let's not forget that it is the muscle that, in the end, is doing the work!